Siener van Rensburg

Do you think there is merit in siener Van Rensburg's predictions?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 27.8%

  • No

    Votes: 93 52.8%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 34 19.3%
  • Total voters
    176
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Morgoth said:
By trying to imprison them they surely went a wiered way about it, you known being responsible for death and genocide isn't my impression of "imprisoning"
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They died due to disease, poor sanitation, and poor nutrition (yes, they weren't fed properly). The point, though, is that they were not intended to die in the camps, they were imprisoned in order to take away Boer guerillas' source of support and supplies.

There's a nice summary here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_concentration_and_internment_camps#South_Africa
 
This thread just got so much more interesting in the last 2 days...

I thought his oke was a crackpot before.. now he's beyond a crackpot... damn lunatic, and anyone who believes the nonsense he wrote shouldn't be allowed to breed.
 
He's heavily supported by holocaust deniers, and they are some of the worst poison on this planet in my opinion.

You're still to point us in the direction of a definitive list of the links between physical events and the symbolism in this crackpot "prophecies"...

You say Siener himself wrote the links... or something like that if i remember correctly.
 
LancelotSA said:
/Possible derail in the interests of education in response to Morgoth...

At risk of again derailing this thread, you don't need to be Jewish to be circumcised.... there are sound reasons to do so!

THIS IS OFF THE ORIGINAL TOPIC BUT RELEVANT TO THIS POST SO DON'T READ ANY FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO!







http://www.circinfo.com/benefits/bmc.html

....amongst many others!

So maybe you should consider it even if you aren't Jewish!

/End derail...
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LOL!
Never in my life!
I do not allow any sharp instruments anywhere close to the family jewels!
 
A question to Toxic Bunny, Lancelot et al:

Do you think there is something to the prophecies of say Nostradamus or are you of the opion that all seers are fake/mistaken/not real?
 
They are ALL fake, or if they apply they're so vague that they could apply to hundreds of situations..

If any "interpretation" has to happen then the prophecy is BS.
 
They are either all fake, some real or if they are real we just havent interpreted the prophecies correctly. I trying to establish exactly what we are debating here.
 
ToxicBunny said:
He's heavily supported by holocaust deniers, and they are some of the worst poison on this planet in my opinion.

You're still to point us in the direction of a definitive list of the links between physical events and the symbolism in this crackpot "prophecies"...

You say Siener himself wrote the links... or something like that if i remember correctly.
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In my considered opinion: I do not deny or accept that the holocaust really happened.
Should the evidence point to the holocaust, i will accept it.
I said before, i do not know enough about it to form an opinion.
Thanks to those, that instead of attacking me, gave links instead.
Siener never gave "links". He explained the symbolism of the visions himself.

Lastly, i am not here to convince you or to get you to believe Sieners visions.
I was asked about it, and i gave the information as fully as i possibly could.
I also did not start the thread.

Here is a English version of the visions by an Author Adriaan Snyman.
http://www.israelect.com/reference/WillieMartin/SEER.htm
Some people tend to disagree with Mr. Snyman's version of events.

There is another author Mr. Pretorius with his own version that people find more to their liking. Unfortunately, that book is not available in English.

The books differ in their final analysis, but only on minor points.
The conclusion is basically the same.
 
Freshy-ZN said:
A question to Toxic Bunny, Lancelot et al:

Do you think there is something to the prophecies of say Nostradamus or are you of the opion that all seers are fake/mistaken/not real?
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Nostradamus's Quatrains are even more vague and have more symbolism that Siener's visions. Yet some people take Nostradamus seriously.
 
What SHOULD the evidence point to the holocaust?!?!?!?!1?!?!

it SHOWS the holocaust happened ffs...

You say he explained the symbolism himself.. post the proof.

I think Adriaan Snyman is a twit... and i only use that word because the ones I want to use will get me banned.

What conclusion is that? That Siener wrote nonsense, and then other ppl have "interpreted" it to mean whatever the hell they want it to.


Freshy : I think the initial point was Siener, but it has morphed into a general one about prophecies... and ultimately... IF something needs to be interpreted to meet a situation, then its not a prophecy its just random mumblings.
 
Freshy-ZN said:
They are either all fake, some real or if they are real we just havent interpreted the prophecies correctly. I trying to establish exactly what we are debating here.
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LOL!
What we are debating here ( instead of Sieners Visions) is that some members got their knickers in a knot because they cannot contemplate that Sieners visions can indeed happen. To some people here, it would probably be the ultimate horror if the Afrikaners get their freedom back. And their country.

What is interesting to me is that the following is occurring right now. As per Sieners visions.

1.) A remarkably cold winter.
2.) Massive strikes.
3.) Famine.
4.) Civilian unrest.
 
I hear you Toxic, but what Im trying determine is whether you particularly dont agree that Siener was a true seer or that the interpretations of his visions are incorrect.
 
Freshy : there is no such thing as a "true seer".. and that anyone who believes the nonsense these crackpots put out needs help... plain and simple.

That answer your question?

Master_cain : Point to the "prophecies" where Siener predicted what is currently happening.. in relation to South Africa, in 2009.
 
Master Cain said:
LOL!
What we are debating here ( instead of Sieners Visions) is that some members got their knickers in a knot because they cannot contemplate that Sieners visions can indeed happen. To some people here, it would probably be the ultimate horror if the Afrikaners get their freedom back. And their country.

What is interesting to me is that the following is occurring right now. As per Sieners visions.

1.) A remarkably cold winter.
2.) Massive strikes.
3.) Famine.
4.) Civilian unrest.
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(1) Winters are usually cold.

Noun

* S: (n) winter, wintertime (the coldest season of the year)
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(2) We've had strikes for ages, nothing new here.

(3) For as long as I can remember, SA has had the majority of it's population living under the breadline. Again, nothing new here..

(4) See above..
 
ToxicBunny said:
What SHOULD the evidence point to the holocaust?!?!?!?!1?!?!

it SHOWS the holocaust happened ffs...

You say he explained the symbolism himself.. post the proof.

I think Adriaan Snyman is a twit... and i only use that word because the ones I want to use will get me banned.

What conclusion is that? That Siener wrote nonsense, and then other ppl have "interpreted" it to mean whatever the hell they want it to.


Freshy : I think the initial point was Siener, but it has morphed into a general one about prophecies... and ultimately... IF something needs to be interpreted to meet a situation, then its not a prophecy its just random mumblings.
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Do you agree that some people out there deny that the holocaust did indeed happen?
They also are quick to supply evidence that they are correct.

Anyway, i am not German, had no friends or family that fought in the war, had no friends or family that were actually exterminated in Europe or took part in the holocaust.

Arguing with me on something which i have no interest in, is childish.
In fact, i couldn't care less weather the holocaust happened or not.
 
feo said:
(1) Winters are usually cold.



(2) We've had strikes for ages, nothing new here.

(3) For as long as I can remember, SA has had the majority of it's population living under the breadline. Again, nothing new here..

(4) See above..
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You are correct.
Point taken.
 
I agree there are people out there who deny the holocaust happened...

They are quick to bring pseudo-evidence to support their position, and it is ALWAYS shown to be wrong...

As for not caring whether the holocaust happened or not is an incredibly small minded point of view if you ask me. It changed the world you live in.

Did Siener predict the holocaust out of interest?
 
feo said:
(1) Winters are usually cold.



(2) We've had strikes for ages, nothing new here.

(3) For as long as I can remember, SA has had the majority of it's population living under the breadline. Again, nothing new here..

(4) See above..
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I hope we can revisit this thread again six months from now. I would really like to engage you in conversation again a few months from now.
That is, if any of us is still alive in six months time.
 
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