Siener van Rensburg

Do you think there is merit in siener Van Rensburg's predictions?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 27.8%

  • No

    Votes: 93 52.8%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 34 19.3%
  • Total voters
    176
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No, I'm a human from this planet..

Well i've heard it now, and i think its stupid.... why not just say "the sh*t is about to hit the fan"?

I have heard of Max du Preez..obviously but just referring to a person as Max, is not specific enough.

I don't want YouTube links, i just want to know the name of the piece that was barred from being shown.
 
Freshy : I do apologise, I have since gone and done some investigation on that aspect... and have found that out...

Which in my opinion makes Sieners crackpot BS even more dubious since it is at best 2nd hand information...
 
feo said:
But MC, it's a legit question.

Who put down Siener's visions on paper if he was illiterate?
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You are not on my ignore list yet.
I only you went to the trouble of reading up on Siener instead of vividly showing your ignorance for the entire world to see, by commenting on a subject of which you obviously know nothing about, you would know the answer to this.

I implore you to read up on Siener before you end up making a bigger fool of yourself than you have already done.
 
Master Cain said:
Yes he did. He never spoke about it afterwards. He secluded himself as the vision was too horrible to tell. He became a nervous wreck after the vision and he aged overnight. He discussed the vision with Genl. De La Rey.
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Now I'm confused.

He foresaw the holocaust but you believe it may not have happened.

Surely if he foresaw it then it must have happened !?
 
Master Cain said:
You are not on my ignore list yet.
I only you went to the trouble of reading up on Siener instead of vividly showing your ignorance for the entire world to see, by commenting on a subject of which you obviously know nothing about, you would know the answer to this.

I implore you to read up on Siener before you end up making a bigger fool of yourself than you have already done.
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Ultimately you are the one making a fool of yourself. Nobody believes in prophecies anymore... they're just amusing to talk about AFTER the fact.
 
ToxicBunny said:
No, I'm a human from this planet..

Well i've heard it now, and i think its stupid.... why not just say "the sh*t is about to hit the fan"?

I have heard of Max du Preez..obviously but just referring to a person as Max, is not specific enough.

I don't want YouTube links, i just want to know the name of the piece that was barred from being shown.
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The entire documentary was barred from being shown and Max got fired. Someone did not want you to see this.
 
Nope... he couldn't "interpret" the holocaust to mean that... as much as he may now try jump on that bandwagon.

The Holocaust refers EXPLICITLY to the events in World War II.

The Anglo-Boer war was a different event.
 
Master Cain said:
The entire documentary was barred from being shown and Max got fired. Someone did not want you to see this.
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So you can't give me the name of the documentary then? Which means the documentary more than likely has sweet FA to do with Siener van Rensburg.. OR it put him down as the crackpot he was...
 
daveza said:
Now I'm confused.

He foresaw the holocaust but you believe it may not have happened.

Surely if he foresaw it then it must have happened !?
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I never said it did not happen.
I said i find it doubtful that 6 Million Jews could have died in the holocaust as there should have been at least 12 million kg of ash somewhere.
Where did Hitler get the trains to transport 6 million people?
Or enough gas to kill and burn them?
In the middle of a war......
 
Master Cain said:
You are not on my ignore list yet.
I only you went to the trouble of reading up on Siener instead of vividly showing your ignorance for the entire world to see, by commenting on a subject of which you obviously know nothing about, you would know the answer to this.

I implore you to read up on Siener before you end up making a bigger fool of yourself than you have already done.
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I guess that's my last post in this thread then.

I found a 3 part doccie on You tube which I'll watch but beyond that, I'll leave you and this topic alone.
 
ToxicBunny said:
Freshy : I do apologise, I have since gone and done some investigation on that aspect... and have found that out...

Which in my opinion makes Sieners crackpot BS even more dubious since it is at best 2nd hand information...
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2nd hand information is a very valid form of historical reference. For example you believe the Jewish Holocaust based on 2nd and third hand evidence(not tryig to start an argument on this just a 'for instance', ok?)

The Land Claims commision is awarding claims based on 20th hand verbal evidence.

If for eg. Siener told a vision to a Doctor who then records and archives it 2 years later. Allowing for some embellishment and misinterpretation let say that vision can be considered 'recorded'. Now in 2000 an event occurs which could be interpreted to have a connection. Is it any less valid because Siener himself did not physically write and archive?
 
Master Cain said:
I never said it did not happen.
I said i find it doubtful that 6 Million Jews could have died in the holocaust as there should have been at least 12 million kg of ash somewhere.
Where did Hitler get the trains to transport 6 million people?
Or enough gas to kill and burn them?
In the middle of a war......
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That sounds EXACTLY like that kind of stuff the holocaust deniers spout....

And the ignore ALL the photographic and textual evidence that the holocaust existed.
 
Freshy-ZN said:
2nd hand information is a very valid form of historical reference. For example you believe the Jewish Holocaust based on 2nd and third hand evidence(not tryig to start an argument on this just a 'for instance', ok?)

The Land Claims commision is awarding claims based on 20th hand verbal evidence.

If for eg. Siener told a vision to a Doctor who then records and archives it 2 years later. Allowing for some embellishment and misinterpretation let say that vision can be considered 'recorded'. Now in 2000 an event occurs which could be interpreted to have a connection. Is it any less valid because Siener himself did not physically write and archive?
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Yes History is usually 2nd, 3rd, 4th or whatever hand.. but it is corroborated by other accounts, and physical evidence, plus its showing things that HAPPENED, not trying to show things that haven't happened yet..

Again the LCC is correcting a historic thing, not prophecying the future.

If Sieners crackpot BS was changed and embellished, then it is no longer his crackpot BS, its just some random mumblings that haven't been correctly remembered by someone and now means even less than it did when he uttered them.
 
ToxicBunny said:
So you can't give me the name of the documentary then? Which means the documentary more than likely has sweet FA to do with Siener van Rensburg.. OR it put him down as the crackpot he was...
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I think it was an SABC Special Assignment episode hosted by Max DP. At least it looks like it from the logo on the screen.
 
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRNNLZvNyE[/ame]

This is the 3 part thing I'm watch at the moment..

Parts 2 and 3 are linked on the side.
 
ToxicBunny said:
So you can't give me the name of the documentary then? Which means the documentary more than likely has sweet FA to do with Siener van Rensburg.. OR it put him down as the crackpot he was...
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The entire programme was on Siener.
It was apparently aired on SABC. My mistake.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRNNLZvNyE[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya0KopdROTk&feature=related[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsbTHSPturg[/ame]
 
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