Sleeping at work defense

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Yeah I think the boss is going to see through any excuse. Just say he was tired, thought he would close his eyes for five minutes.
 
Billy said:
My father used to tell the story of the Manager going on a tour of inspection with one of the Foremen.

They happened on Bill, fast asleep, in one of the storage areas.

The Foreman made to wake Bill, but the Manager held him back saying, "No. don't wake him, whilst he's sleeping he's got a job."
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That's why we used to climb up the cranes. Couldn't be seen from the ground and no way some suit was going to climb the ladder to check if anyone was up there. And no, we weren't napping when we were supposed to be working. It was one of those jobs that involved long periods of waiting around between crises.
 
noxibox said:
That's why we used to climb up the cranes. Couldn't be seen from the ground and no way some suit was going to climb the ladder to check if anyone was up there. And no, we weren't napping when we were supposed to be working. It was one of those jobs that involved long periods of waiting around between crises.
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Wait, If you weren't napping then what were you doing alone at the top of a..... uh never mind I think I get the picture
 
ave said:
Wait, If you weren't napping then what were you doing alone at the top of a..... uh never mind I think I get the picture
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What were we doing on the factory floor when weren't napping because we were supposed to be working? Err, working.
 
What is the transgression?

1. sleeping during lunch period
2. sleeping in the toilet during his lunch period
3. something else you/we unaware of

:confused:
 
Sleeping on the job is one of those things that companies take surprisingly seriously. Sometimes I have had a really bad night with teething babies etc and then I will take a nap in my car during lunch which they can't really complain about. Its if you fall asleep at your desk or on your floor that it becomes an issue. Honestly though its not something that is enforced unless they already are trying to get rid of you or if its impacting on your work. A lot of guys party on week nights and come to work extremely tired and then they under-perform or go take naps during work time. For those people management has an easy out if they catch you sleeping once. Its the same as theft. Instant dismissal.

Still, that is a lot lighter than what happens to sentries who fall asleep while in the military. Up until not that long ago it meant death.
 
Cius said:
For those people management has an easy out if they catch you sleeping once. Its the same as theft. Instant dismissal.
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Sleeping on the job isn't a criminal offence (well, not in most jobs) - you still need to follow the correct procedures in terms of warnings etc. unless you want the CCMA on your case. Under out current labour laws there's pretty much no such thing as an "instant dismissal"...

Honestly the OP's situation just sounds like a manager on a power trip. Unless there are company policies dictating what employees may or may not do during thier lunch hours, there's no case for even a verbal warning.
 
Since someone bumped up this thread.

Update :) : My friend didn't get fired but was asked to no to sleep in the bathroom again, manager was apparently on some sort of power-trip but was a lot calmer today
 
It is not uncommon to include a scheduled nap in your work day. That is if you work atleast 10 - 12 hours/day. It is good health and keeps your brain function snappy.
 
ant_man said:
It depends on Your Job Description
If he is a clerk or something like that it isnt serious.
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Really, love to know where you sucked that one from. Lots of case law to disprove you and it does not even have to be covered in Code of Conduct.

Then again I spend each year going through as much labour law as possible every time we have to discipline one of our staff.
 
Icarium said:
Sleeping on the job isn't a criminal offence (well, not in most jobs) - you still need to follow the correct procedures in terms of warnings etc. unless you want the CCMA on your case. Under out current labour laws there's pretty much no such thing as an "instant dismissal"...

Honestly the OP's situation just sounds like a manager on a power trip. Unless there are company policies dictating what employees may or may not do during thier lunch hours, there's no case for even a verbal warning.
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No need for warnings.

Instant dismissal is incorrectly used to refer to dismissal on first offence after a hearing. All warnings and dismissals need to be done through a disciplinary hearing and outcome may not be predetermined. Even a verbal warning is only valid after at least an impromptu hearing.
 
cbrunsdonza said:
No need for warnings.

Instant dismissal is incorrectly used to refer to dismissal on first offence after a hearing. All warnings and dismissals need to be done through a disciplinary hearing and outcome may not be predetermined. Even a verbal warning is only valid after at least an impromptu hearing.
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That's the point I was making. To fire someone you need to dot your i's, cross your t's, and even then you'd be hard pressed to get away with firing someone with no other disciplinary problems the first time you catch them taking a 10 minute nap without them bringing the CCMA into it.

We've had to fire people for far more serious offences (repeated tardiness, running up ridiculous phone bills, blatantly not working) and from experience the CCMA can get very prickly about what was done leading up to a dismissal.
 
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