So Err, what the hell with this latency?

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Phenomenon

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So last night my ADSL connection (SAOL - SAIX) goes down and 5 minutes later its back up again, and my latency seems really awesome all of the sudden. I tested a couple of servers and European servers were all of the sudden much faster to get to, all in the 200-280ms. US servers seemed entirely unaffected and were still at ~330ms.

Code: 
Tracing route to europe.battle.net [213.248.106.66]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    22 ms    21 ms    19 ms  1.13.177.41-get-oneprice-adsl-for-only-R169.cybersmart.co.za [41.177.13.1]
  3    42 ms    49 ms    42 ms  196.6.121.38-backbone.cybersmart.co.za [196.6.121.38]
  4    43 ms    42 ms    43 ms  wrbs-ip-esr-3-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.3.37]
  5   202 ms   202 ms   200 ms  wblv-ip-lir-1-pos-7-2-2.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.18.6]
  6   201 ms   202 ms   202 ms  ldn-tch-i1-link.telia.net [213.155.141.153]
  7   203 ms   204 ms   201 ms  ldn-b5-link.telia.net [80.91.250.209]
  8   200 ms   224 ms   204 ms  ldn-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.252.197]
  9   223 ms   221 ms   221 ms  hbg-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.220]
 10   237 ms   237 ms   239 ms  s-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.251.40]
 11   242 ms   232 ms   234 ms  s-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.254.57]
 12   233 ms   238 ms   239 ms  s-hdn-i3-link.telia.net [80.91.249.69]

And now from this morning its back to "normal" again, longer route, double the latency, some European servers in the mid 300, lots of them over 400:

Code: 
Tracing route to europe.battle.net [213.248.106.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    20 ms    20 ms    23 ms  1.13.177.41-get-oneprice-adsl-for-only-R169.cybersmart.co.za [41.177.13.1]
  3    42 ms    43 ms    43 ms  196.6.121.38-backbone.cybersmart.co.za [196.6.121.38]
  4   301 ms   301 ms   301 ms  192.168.255.2
  5   303 ms   301 ms   300 ms  69.80.226.57
  6   302 ms   302 ms   303 ms  gi0-11.na31.b001027-0.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.104.60.77]
  7   301 ms   301 ms   301 ms  gi1-47.3806.mpd01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.20.43.121]
  8   307 ms   307 ms   308 ms  te4-1.mpd01.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.14]
  9   319 ms   317 ms   318 ms  te4-3.mpd01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.158]
 10   330 ms   330 ms   329 ms  te7-2.ccr01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.190]
 11   328 ms   331 ms   331 ms  vl3488.mpd01.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.26]
 12   330 ms   331 ms   330 ms  telia.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11.66]
 13   342 ms   342 ms   343 ms  nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.248.197]
 14   434 ms   440 ms   441 ms  kbn-bb2-link.telia.net [213.248.64.33]
 15   449 ms   442 ms   448 ms  s-bb2-link.telia.net [213.248.65.165]
 16   460 ms   458 ms   449 ms  s-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.253.228]
 17   446 ms   444 ms   448 ms  s-hdn-i3-link.telia.net [80.91.251.245]

So what is going on? And why is our traffic routed this poorly? Does it save someone money somewhere? It seems like, with proper routing, we should be getting ~200ms to European servers. Why aren't we?
 
Phenomenon said:
So last night my ADSL connection (SAOL - SAIX)
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Your traceroute indicates you are with Cybersmart? A traceroute from Cybersmart looks identical to your second output?

Looks like they switched providers to SAIX for a while & the results of that look pretty good.
What time last night did this happen?
 
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I'm with SAOL, which is the same thing as Cybersmart as far as I know. To the best of my knowledge it has ALWAYS been SAIX.

This was last night at about 9 perhaps?
 
My line also dropped last night ??? thought it was my upgrade done on the same day ??

im with Axxess ?? will try a tracert tonight
 
how is this
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Rudi>tracert europe.battle.net

Tracing route to europe.battle.net [213.248.106.201]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms mygateway1.ar7 [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms 196-210-144-1-snnd-esr-1.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [1
96.210.144.1]
3 10 ms 29 ms 9 ms cdsl1-rba-vl2460.ip.isnet.net [196.38.72.217]
4 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms 196.38.73.142
5 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms cdsl1-rba-vl52.ip.isnet.net [196.38.73.137]
6 219 ms 9 ms 10 ms core2b-rba-gi1-0-5.ip.isnet.net [196.26.0.182]
7 285 ms 286 ms 286 ms mi-za-rba-p6-gi2-0-0-304.ip.isnet.net [168.209.1
64.175]
8 286 ms 285 ms 285 ms mi-us-25b-p2-gi1-0-4.ip.isnet.net [168.209.160.2
19]
9 288 ms 284 ms 288 ms core2a-ny-gi1-0-19-304.ip.isnet.net [168.209.164
.126]
10 286 ms 285 ms 285 ms core1b-ny-gi0-0-2.ip.isnet.net [168.209.244.3]
11 295 ms 284 ms 284 ms gi1-6.ccr01.jfk06.atlas.cogentco.com [38.104.66.
89]
12 288 ms 286 ms 286 ms te2-1.mpd01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.
217]
13 282 ms 292 ms 282 ms te2-3.ccr01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1.2
09]
14 286 ms 286 ms 286 ms te7-2.mpd01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.2
10]
15 287 ms 286 ms 286 ms gi13-0-0.core01.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.1.154]
16 283 ms 288 ms 282 ms telia.jfk05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.12.126]
17 286 ms 286 ms 286 ms nyk-bb2-link.telia.net [213.248.83.65]
18 308 ms 304 ms 308 ms kbn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.254.90]
19 316 ms 315 ms 318 ms s-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.65.141]
20 326 ms 326 ms 325 ms s-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.254.109]
21 311 ms 317 ms 316 ms s-hdn-i3-link.telia.net [80.91.251.245]
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * ^C
C:\Documents and Settings\Rudi>e
'e' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Documents and Settings\Rudi>^E
 
ponder said:
Hasn't been since December last year, they provision their own bandwidth.
Click to expand...

Well I guess they just lost a customer then, since my issues have been a lot more frequent recently.

Their support is worhtless anyway.
 
As of last night I noticed huge packet loss over telia networks.
 
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