So I'm getting poached..

[thatdamnJoe]

One of my wifes staff members (she is casual) is trying the "negotiation" on us this week. I'm not prepared to budge and she must move on. We are already started looking for her replacement today.

Neither she or any of my wifes staff are ireplaceable - the loss of them (or all) is only an inconvieniance.

The same goes with any business.

Since shes casual, it implies theres not a lot of work, nor is it especially skilled work, meaning plenty of replacements are available. This all translates to a poor bargaining position, therefore demanding a raise would be silly. asking for a raise is another thing though.

I'm not sure why telling your boss you'd like a raise somehow is interpreted as "you think you're irreplaceable" though? Its a negotiation, and the person with the most bargaining power will get what they want- same as any other negotiation. If you cant pay me more, then say so, and I'll make my own decision about what to do from there

 

[WilD_CaT]

Since shes casual, it implies theres not a lot of work, nor is it especially skilled work, meaning plenty of replacements are available. This all translates to a poor bargaining position, therefore demanding a raise would be silly. asking for a raise is another thing though.

I'm not sure why telling your boss you'd like a raise somehow is interpreted as "you think you're irreplaceable" though? Its a negotiation, and the person with the most bargaining power will get what they want- same as any other negotiation. If you cant pay me more, then say so, and I'll make my own decision about what to do from there

Agreed.

Negotiation is a skill though, it can benfit you or work against you.

I would say do a bit of research on the company who is trying to poach you. You know what they offer financially, but have a look at what sort of environment you will work in. If it seems good, then it is a no brainer and you should probably go as your current employer almost certainly cannot match the poachers financially otherwise the difference in salary would be smaller (Unless they have been shafting you hoping you stay quite about the pay...)

If the environment is not as good as your current employers then you got variables to play with, pay + environment. How important each one is to you will determine who you decide to work for. If the increase in pay will benefit you more (And only you can decide this) then start the negotiations with your current employer. If the work environment is more important to you then obviously you are happy where you are.

 

[Other Pineapple Smurf]

Since shes casual, it implies theres not a lot of work, nor is it especially skilled work, meaning plenty of replacements are available. This all translates to a poor bargaining position, therefore demanding a raise would be silly. asking for a raise is another thing though.

In her case we have dozens of replacements, but in the past we had one skilled individual that tried to hold the business ransom, we got rid of him ASAP - it threw him off guard and destroyed his ego (and swollen head). Sure, it took us a couple of weeks to recover, but we recovered even though it cost us some long nights of extra work.


There is also a difference between blackmailing a company into a raise vs asking for a promotion and accepting more duties. A few weeks back we promoted one of my wifes staff members when she raised concerns of her salary and her commitments. She had proven to us she wanted to get somewhere in life and we offered her a promotion instead with more duties that came with the salary increase.

 

[Y'all Qaeda]

In her case we have dozens of replacements, but in the past we had one skilled individual that tried to hold the business ransom, we got rid of him ASAP - it threw him off guard and destroyed his ego (and swollen head). Sure, it took us a couple of weeks to recover, but we recovered even though it cost us some long nights of extra work.


There is also a difference between blackmailing a company into a raise vs asking for a promotion and accepting more duties. A few weeks back we promoted one of my wifes staff members when she raised concerns of her salary and her commitments. She had proven to us she wanted to get somewhere in life and we offered her a promotion instead with more duties that came with the salary increase.

Ahhh. To be recognised for what you do. I've taken on so much extra things in my time where I am, but they just say:"Raise is a swear word at this place." Then proceed to give example where it took 4 years to get someone a raise. So, yes I'm also looking but not really getting anything.