Rouxenator
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What a load of BS! aye?
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Software Piracy hurts economy: BSA
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Huh?!
So you are blaming people that download music mp3s for a breach of contract. You are brilliant! It was Dr Pepper in the conservatory with a coke I tell you!
Get a lawyer for a breach of contract dude, dont go mindlessly blame people.
You just don't get it to do you.
What's the difference between our situation and that of someone who would just download the software if they could? Both are using it and not paying for it. Thus it is piracy. You do know that illegal copy of windows you have is also a "contract" it's called the terms of use.
What's the difference between our situation and that of someone who would just download the software if they could? Both are using it and not paying for it. Thus it is piracy. You do know that illegal copy of windows you have is also a "contract" it's called the terms of use.
You mean other than the glaringly huge difference of commercial vs private use you mean?
Microsoft is a terrible example. They would prefer you pirated their product (which is why its so easy to hack), then use the free opensource alternative.
Wanna try some more misconceptions on us?
So according to you it's okay to steal something as long as it is for private use?
Can i get your adress and come take your tv then? I promise i won't sell it to anyone, i'l just keep it for private use.
Can i get your adress and come take your tv then? I promise i won't sell it to anyone, i'l just keep it for private use.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Because a contract of sale exists between your company and SITA ... hence the term "breach of contract" (it may also be copyright infringement... but any court is unlikely to prosecute it as such).
On the other hand... no agreement of sale exists between the guy who downloads an MP3 tune from a torrent site and the original owner of the work. There was never any intention to purchase the work. so that can only be prosecuted as copyright infringement... and usually only then if the guy who downloaded it actually distributed the work further or profited commercially from it.
Common sense really.
First off, if you are going to be using the English language, use it correctly. Stop changing the meaning of words to suite your argument. Copyright infringement is copyright infringement. Saying its theft is a blatant lie and people will think you are being dishonest and not take you seriously. If you are going to argue about the law make sure you understand it.
If you do, Ill charge you for theft, because thats a real crime. You are however welcome to come make a copy of it. No theft took place as I still have the original. I dont mind. Hope you noticed how batty your "theft" argument is. Copyright infringement is not theft. If you think it is, then people who call it theft are actually pedophiles (see I can be like you and assign a negative word to your stance as well).
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No agreement of sale exits between the guy who downloads software from a torrent site or takes the copy from a store. There was never any intention of paying for the software. so that can only be prosecuted as theft.
Common sense really.
I really cannot see how you can distinguish between copyright infringement and theft in the case of using software illegally. As a user of the software you pay a certain fee(usually a purchase price) which then gives you a license to use said software, never to own it. If you don't pay for your license that is theft to me. You are using something without paying for it.
I don't understand how you can call it theft if I take a copy of a cd from a store but change it to copyright infringement as soon as I download it.
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Good luck with that lie
PS... learn the law you clearly have no clue about the technical meaning of words 
Next time you jaywalk I hope someone charges you for being a pedophile... then perhaps you will understand how doff your argument is.
BSA this is 2010
Hey wake up! Software in a box is dead and micro payments are in. The piracy bull**** is all about keeping BSA alive to see another day. Apple has shown the world the power of itunes business model. They are turning around an industry previously pirated to hell! But this time they are in control. Keep whining and soon you will not steer the ship at all and someone who provides a guaranteed service at the right price will take control ....
Hey wake up! Software in a box is dead and micro payments are in. The piracy bull**** is all about keeping BSA alive to see another day. Apple has shown the world the power of itunes business model. They are turning around an industry previously pirated to hell! But this time they are in control. Keep whining and soon you will not steer the ship at all and someone who provides a guaranteed service at the right price will take control ....
Never mind, pirates don't have any sense of morality in anyway. I'd just find some justice in the world if someone here who's argument was for piracy in the past, was to get sacked come the 25th.
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LazyLion
King of de Jungle
No, you are incorrect. You continue to display your ignorance of the law.
In the first instance there is no charge of theft... since the person has not stolen anything. He has only made a copy of it. He will be charged with copyright infringement.
In the second instance he has physically stolen an actual physical item and he will be charged with theft.
In the first instance a copy was made... and the original left behind.
In the second instance no copy made... and the original was removed.
kapisch?
Archer
Honorary Master
Seriously, your dads problem has ZERO to do with piracy. If SITA had pirated the goods your dad would have lost R0, spent R0 on procuring the goods they want and then finally spent another R0 on lawyers. Its a breach of contract - they agreed to pay x amount for goods and they never did.
This is just a case of big companies trying to explain loss of sales to their board of directors. Who uses microsloth office and pays for it, when you have openoffice for free? Go and have a look at how much microsloth office 2010 is, it is not cheap. Why bother spending lots of money when free software is avaiable that does the same thing? I think the only company that really can whine is microsoft, theirs have got to be the most pirated software ever!
These guys use their name to justify loss of sales, the economic situation lends itself to bad sales, no money means more stuff will be pirated, high prices means more stuff will be pirated, good stolen from things being imported means people wont buy things online, more lack of sales which means more piracy. The ripple effect. If the same movies blu-rays could be produced here is SA, and not have to be shipped in, then surely that would bring the price down of having to buy it. If the price is low enough people will buy it. If the companies got a liscensed distrubutor in SA, surely that would bring the costs of shipping down?
These guys use their name to justify loss of sales, the economic situation lends itself to bad sales, no money means more stuff will be pirated, high prices means more stuff will be pirated, good stolen from things being imported means people wont buy things online, more lack of sales which means more piracy. The ripple effect. If the same movies blu-rays could be produced here is SA, and not have to be shipped in, then surely that would bring the price down of having to buy it. If the price is low enough people will buy it. If the companies got a liscensed distrubutor in SA, surely that would bring the costs of shipping down?
Piracy is a crime. Its when you illegally board someone elses ship and steal its cargo. Oh wait... you are using loaded words that have no relation again... dont pretend to have morality when you clearly have issues telling the truth.
I work with Linux systems... the concept doesnt really exist in my world. We approve of free distribution of our products.
encrypted
Senior Member
You heard em guys.
Easily achievable, can everybody stop using pirated winrar and use free 7zip instead. Let's watch the job creation happen!
Easily achievable, can everybody stop using pirated winrar and use free 7zip instead. Let's watch the job creation happen!
JustBlack
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Shame, SpoOkie... You're just throwing your toys around and whining because Pa won't be as wealthy as you were hoping he'd be??? Awww... Don't worry, there'll still be food on the table... Pappie sal 'n ander plan maak seuntjie. But as for myself and my friends, we shall continue to pirate anything and everything that needs to be pirated, to keep us entertained for FREE, MAHALA, NOTHING. Down with all these people who have more than enough money, but still seek to obtain more of it. Software, games, movies, music, I don't care... Everything for free.