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cvanwie said:
I couldn't agree with you more. I'm curious why the additional connection(s)? Are you sharing with friends/family? Are you bonding two connections?
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1) Family - sometimes one or the other kills their cap just before month end
2) Business - sharing a high cap account amongst employees for after hours work and work from home
 
well maby make a option to charge more per extra connection,i know ppl who will use this
as they can use the high cap business at there company in the day,then come home any enjoy the bolt on *winks*on the same account

also just looked,the Business FP setup fee is just to much for me to use at home :/

im very happy with the normal one,fatpipe should surely be way better,and business even better than that!,

does that one limit p2p,and non business protocols etc or,is that also totally unshaped(like fatpipe) but with higher priority
 
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Fatpipe with unlimited "night owl" data (midnight to 7am).

I'd like something for Fatpipe that can compete with Telkom's or IS's late night extra data. Telkom has uncapped between midnight and 6 or 7 (can't remember) on their softcap accounts and WebAfrica, etc have extra data here too.

Bolt-on is cool, but I know it would be costly to have it for higher speed lines. This I think is better as it utilises spare capacity that wouldn't be used anyway.
 
cvanwie said:
A la carte menu, interesting. I assume you're talking about Vumatel; good company.
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I like the A la carte menu idea a lot.

How about giving discount based on how many services you bundle, like a 10% to 50% discount on your bundle price, the more services you add, the higher your discount.

And show the top 5 bundles people buy.
 
How about adding an option to buy extra concurrent connections to your fatpipe accounts (eg. R50 per extra connection)

My parent have an internet account at their house and they never use more than 10Gb. Currently the smallest account you have is a 50GB fatpipe @ R170. I pay for their account anyway and would love to be able to add them to my existing account instead of them having a separate account. Plus they can share in whatever bandwidth I have, also when I visit them, it's like being at home :)
 
Fatpipe 100GB (6am to 6pm) with Bolt-on (Uncapped) from 6pm to 6am

Also different speed options for the Bolt-on, 10mbps, 20mbps, 40mbps.
(Prices can increase of course)
 
In my opinion too many options, start to overprice things. The reason why I was with Afrihost was that their capped data was unshaped and allowed any time of day (don't start with the issues they have now). What bothered me about the likes of WebAfrica and Crystalweb is that I had to pay a premium for "free" data that I can only use after midnight or I had to get a decent anytime cap but then sit with like 400GB of cap that I never use! The you get Home Beginner, Home Standard, Home Premium, Home Holy Canoly packages and then the same with Business packages! There is no balance!

I agree the build your own deal does seem to be a good one, but Vox should be careful not to charge to much for the extras. But I'm glad I finally have just a plain cap package with great performance, whenever I use it, at a great price!!
 
i wouldn't mind a special on the 250gb account with rollover

BTW do these accounts allow for 2 concurrent connections ? if not maybe include that in the special :D
most of us share our accounts with family and we monitor/pay/change the account as the need arises
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Fatpipe with unlimited "night owl" data (midnight to 7am).

I'd like something for Fatpipe that can compete with Telkom's or IS's late night extra data. Telkom has uncapped between midnight and 6 or 7 (can't remember) on their softcap accounts and WebAfrica, etc have extra data here too.

Bolt-on is cool, but I know it would be costly to have it for higher speed lines. This I think is better as it utilises spare capacity that wouldn't be used anyway.
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I get you but the VOX equivalent of 12am-6am/7am is bolt-on and it is far better!

It wouldn't make sense to introduce another after hours category.

Just offer bolt-on at different speeds and bundled with fatpipe, period.

When you have bolt-on after 6pm and all weekend, the average home user, who is working 8am-4pm/5pm and is home all weekend only needs around 20gb's 'off peak'.

A heavy user could get away with 100gb's off peak, quite easily!!

Do the math!! Bolt-on is in effect 108 hours out of a 168 hour week!! It's a no-brainer!! PERIOD!!!!

The question is does VOX make money out of bolt-on? And if it were so widely adopted by high end, high speed users, to what detriment of the over all network?

VOX100 10mb = 100gig 'off peak' + bolt-on @ R379 (bundled with line R729)
VOX100 20mb = 100gig 'off peak' + bolt-on @ R438 (bundled with line R838)
VOX100 40mb = 100gig 'off peak' + bolt-on @ R556 (bundled with line R860)

I simply don't see how VOX could offer this and still remain in business, but if they could they would put 90% of their competitors out of business, PERIOD!!!

BOTTOMLINE GENTLEMEN: BOLT-ON is the silver bullet/golden goose/blue eyed boy.... call it whatever you like. In its current state it outperforms just about every other capped/uncapped/business/platinum/premium/blah blah blah account I've used in the last 2 years!!

Don't over complicate things!! Don't fall into the OW trap (and every other ISP's too) of offering 15 different variations of capped/uncapped accounts. Keep it simple, keep it real, make sure the product does what it says on the box! Get that right and you might as well fire your marketing department! They not needed. Product sells itself!

The question remains!!! Should there be a mass adoption of bolt-on what net effect on the network and, by extension, on the product?? We've seen it happen to just about every ISP in the SA telecoms market! High adoption rates = over saturation of said network = degradation of service/network = plethora of disgruntled, disillusioned and alienated users!!!
 
sand_man said:
The question remains!!! Should there be a mass adoption of bolt-on what net effect on the network and, by extension, on the product?? We've seen it happen to just about every ISP in the SA telecoms market! High adoption rates = over saturation of said network = degradation of service/network = plethora of disgruntled, disillusioned and alienated users!!!
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^^^^ My BIGGEST concern.
 
Yeah, 100 gig fatpipe + bolt-on is the perfect account. A 100 gigs is roughly 3 gigs a day, which is perfect for fairly heavy updating, browsing, youtubing, and the odd HD linux distro which was missed before 6am. Bolt-on then takes care of streaming after work as well as rest of the content which comes around 3am.
 
for heavens sake let us pair fatpipe with Bolton again. oh 25gb fatpipe that is of course.
 
ryu said:
thanks, guess thats a no for me then.
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Why though?

I get the convenience of multiple concurrent connections but if an ISP is selling a great product, with a wide enough range of bundles, with an relatively easy sign up process, what would the issue be in purchasing multiple accounts to use on multiple numbers?

I've used a single account across a number of lines before so don't get me wrong, I appreciate the convenience of it but is it a deal breaker? Mmmm...
 
Zyzzyva said:
Yeah, 100 gig fatpipe + bolt-on is the perfect account. A 100 gigs is roughly 3 gigs a day, which is perfect for fairly heavy updating, browsing, youtubing, and the odd HD linux distro which was missed before 6am. Bolt-on then takes care of streaming after work as well as rest of the content which comes around 3am.
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^^ This!

It's a no-brainer!

Offered in 10mb/20mb/40mb iterations at a price of R379/R438/R556, it's a competitor killer...

Let's not forget that a 10mb bolt-on is being sold at R59!! INSANE!!!
 
The inevitable is going to happen. Bolt on will gain traction, heavy users will pick it up and start to flat line it. Service will go down or shaping will start. GG no RE.

Eventually this will be the outcome. It always is.
 
sand_man said:
Why though?

I get the convenience of multiple concurrent connections but if an ISP is selling a great product, with a wide enough range of bundles, with an relatively easy sign up process, what would the issue be in purchasing multiple accounts to use on multiple numbers?

I've used a single account across a number of lines before so don't get me wrong, I appreciate the convenience of it but is it a deal breaker? Mmmm...
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true, will think about it

problem is when something goes wrong as it always does its just easier to troubleshoot one account than multiple but i see what you saying it shouldnt be a dealbreaker - that said i am lazy and like things easy :p
 
sand_man said:
^^ This!

It's a no-brainer!

Offered in 10mb/20mb/40mb iterations at a price of R379/R438/R556, it's a competitor killer...

Let's not forget that a 10mb bolt-on WAS being sold at R59!! INSANE!!!
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The bolt-on is no longer sold as is, and you need to take it with the 25GB for R150 as far as I know.
 
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