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So again you cherrypick facts to suit your biased, blinkered views.
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So again you cherrypick facts to suit your biased, blinkered views.
Nerfherder
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You forget about that massive pot of water attached to the edge of CT....
Immigration and birth rates are a normal thing (As is urbanisation). Gauteng has the same factors influencing it. The capital growth of residents that have invested in the WC and beyond is something that they can influence. Not sure how they would measure it though
About what?
Nerfherder
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Say what ?
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Sorry, two. But the second is way too short for international flights.
Direction Length m Length ft Surface
01/19 3,201 10,502 Asphalt
16/34 1,701 5,581 Asphalt
While OR Tambo:
Direction Length ft Length m Surface
03L/21R 14,495 4,418 Asphalt
03R/21L 11,155 3,400 Asphalt
CPT's second runway can only be used in optimal conditions even for small planes (light plane, dry, no wind, manual landing...) as shown there (note that the plane's weight empty is 33t, so 34t is basically a plane with no passengers nor cargo):
Some terrible economic arguments being debated here by someone I thought was economically astute. So much misunderstanding of the jozi and slaapstad economies and industries. A little bit sad but everyone has an off day.
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Which helps, but the biggest trading partner of SA is now China which makes Durban more and more important.
Nerfherder
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Chinese love CT though.
MickeyD
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This minister can read...
Wonder if she understands it?
Wonder if she understands it?
Yeah, but we have not been particularly outstanding at attracting investment from China. Although, again Minister Winde seems to be making some headwind (headwinde?) here
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A court orders no more jamming in the Parliament !
http://www.news24.com/Live/SouthAfrica/News/Parliament-promises-no-more-cellphone-jamming-20150218
http://www.news24.com/Live/SouthAfrica/News/Parliament-promises-no-more-cellphone-jamming-20150218
Good news! Although the article doesn't say that. It just says than an application was lodged. It doesn't mention the ruling
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AchmatK
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I can vouch for the Work and Skills Programme. I was the Project Manager on the 2014 rollout and we had just over 1 000 unemployed youth go through the programme and more than 60% were offered full-time employment.
Not an easy task. It was a one week training workshop followed by six month internship with a basic stipend from the Western Cape Gov with an optional top-up from the employer.
Not involved with the current year but I know they have started again and will run next year as well.
Some brilliant people working in the Department of Economic Development and Tourism who is responsible for this programme.
Thats a bit of a win at least
Agree about the Department of Economic Development and Tourism (And particularly Minister Winde). Which is why I had hoped for more. But these things take time I suppose (Although it is galling watching how the WC LNG feasibility study became a talk shop, as did securing our own power supply).
MickeyD
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Open letter to Ebrahim Patel
Note to editors: The following letter is in response to the SONA debate speech delivered by Minister Ebrahim Patel in the National Assembly last night.
Dear Minister Patel,
Yesterday in Parliament you launched a broadside at the Democratic Alliance’s performance in growing the economy and creating jobs in government in the Western Cape.
Many South Africans who saw or heard your speech may have found your manipulation of the employment statistics reasonably persuasive.
For that reason, it is essential that I set the record straight.
Let’s start with your reliance on the narrow unemployment rate.
According to the government’s “narrow” definition of unemployment, Limpopo has the lowest unemployment in the country, at just 15,9%.
It should immediately be obvious that this is laughable. Firstly, when you include the number of people who have given up looking for work, Limpopo’s unemployment rate jumps to 43,46%.
Secondly, the “narrow” definition shows how it is possible for unemployment to be “exported” from failing provinces to more successful provinces through migration (more on this later).
It is clear that the broader definition of unemployment is far more useful for any serious analysis.
In your speech, you celebrated the reduction in the narrow unemployment rate by 1.1% from Q3 to Q4 of 2014. Of course, we join you in celebrating with any South African lucky enough to get a job.
However, a similar short term bounce in the employment figures has been observed in the same period (Q3 to Q4) in every year since 2008. This is easily explained by the seasonal nature of the agriculture and construction industries.
Like clockwork, in the first quarter of the following year, unemployment jumps.
That is why StatsSA themselves warns against reading too much into quarterly figures. It is medium term trends that really count.
And on this score, the government has much to answer for. There are 1,6 million more unemployed people in South Africa today than when Jacob Zuma came to office in 2009. In fact, I’ve calculated that 730 more people become unemployed in South Africa every single day that you and President Zuma remain in office.
This is the trend that counts, and it is not a good story to tell.
The Western Cape has the lowest broad definition unemployment rate in the country, despite having an economy far smaller than Gauteng.
The broad unemployment rate in the Western Cape is 23,6% – a massive 12,5% below the national rate.
The Western Cape also has the lowest number of discouraged work seekers, at only 22 000.
Compare this to KwaZulu Natal’s 616 000 discouraged work seekers, Limpopo’s 403 000, or Gauteng’s 379 000.
This statistic more than any other shows how the DA government in the Western Cape has, with sound economic management and policy leadership, built a province of hope and opportunity. The unemployed in the Western Cape feel they have a reasonable chance of getting work, and indeed, many of them are able to find work reasonably soon.
In fact, despite a huge growth in population in the Western Cape since 2009, the number of discouraged work seekers has actually gone down in the province by 33%.
The total population in the Western Cape has grown from 5,35 million in 2009 to 6,1 million in June 2014. According to StatsSA, 344 830 people have moved to the Western Cape since 2011 alone.
The trend is self-reinforcing. As the Western Cape economy does better and better, so more and more South Africans move there in seek of opportunities.
The working age population (15-64) has grown by 728 000 since 2009, yet the number of unemployed people has grown by only 153 000. That means, more than 4 out of every 5 people who join the Western Cape labour force get a job.
The DA does not claim to have an overnight solution for unemployment. That would be folly. But we have proven that a clean government with the right policies can grow the economy over time and create jobs, despite the national government’s job crushing policies. And South Africans are voting with their feet, specifically in search of jobs and better service delivery.
Next time you want to attack the DA, make sure you do so on the basis of the facts, not by twisting the employment stats to cover up for the wholesale destruction of jobs that your government has perpetrated since 2009.
Regards,
Geordin Hill-Lewis MP
http://www.da.org.za/2015/02/open-letter-ebrahim-patel/
Note to editors: The following letter is in response to the SONA debate speech delivered by Minister Ebrahim Patel in the National Assembly last night.
Dear Minister Patel,
Yesterday in Parliament you launched a broadside at the Democratic Alliance’s performance in growing the economy and creating jobs in government in the Western Cape.
Many South Africans who saw or heard your speech may have found your manipulation of the employment statistics reasonably persuasive.
For that reason, it is essential that I set the record straight.
Let’s start with your reliance on the narrow unemployment rate.
According to the government’s “narrow” definition of unemployment, Limpopo has the lowest unemployment in the country, at just 15,9%.
It should immediately be obvious that this is laughable. Firstly, when you include the number of people who have given up looking for work, Limpopo’s unemployment rate jumps to 43,46%.
Secondly, the “narrow” definition shows how it is possible for unemployment to be “exported” from failing provinces to more successful provinces through migration (more on this later).
It is clear that the broader definition of unemployment is far more useful for any serious analysis.
In your speech, you celebrated the reduction in the narrow unemployment rate by 1.1% from Q3 to Q4 of 2014. Of course, we join you in celebrating with any South African lucky enough to get a job.
However, a similar short term bounce in the employment figures has been observed in the same period (Q3 to Q4) in every year since 2008. This is easily explained by the seasonal nature of the agriculture and construction industries.
Like clockwork, in the first quarter of the following year, unemployment jumps.
That is why StatsSA themselves warns against reading too much into quarterly figures. It is medium term trends that really count.
And on this score, the government has much to answer for. There are 1,6 million more unemployed people in South Africa today than when Jacob Zuma came to office in 2009. In fact, I’ve calculated that 730 more people become unemployed in South Africa every single day that you and President Zuma remain in office.
This is the trend that counts, and it is not a good story to tell.
The Western Cape has the lowest broad definition unemployment rate in the country, despite having an economy far smaller than Gauteng.
The broad unemployment rate in the Western Cape is 23,6% – a massive 12,5% below the national rate.
The Western Cape also has the lowest number of discouraged work seekers, at only 22 000.
Compare this to KwaZulu Natal’s 616 000 discouraged work seekers, Limpopo’s 403 000, or Gauteng’s 379 000.
This statistic more than any other shows how the DA government in the Western Cape has, with sound economic management and policy leadership, built a province of hope and opportunity. The unemployed in the Western Cape feel they have a reasonable chance of getting work, and indeed, many of them are able to find work reasonably soon.
In fact, despite a huge growth in population in the Western Cape since 2009, the number of discouraged work seekers has actually gone down in the province by 33%.
The total population in the Western Cape has grown from 5,35 million in 2009 to 6,1 million in June 2014. According to StatsSA, 344 830 people have moved to the Western Cape since 2011 alone.
The trend is self-reinforcing. As the Western Cape economy does better and better, so more and more South Africans move there in seek of opportunities.
The working age population (15-64) has grown by 728 000 since 2009, yet the number of unemployed people has grown by only 153 000. That means, more than 4 out of every 5 people who join the Western Cape labour force get a job.
The DA does not claim to have an overnight solution for unemployment. That would be folly. But we have proven that a clean government with the right policies can grow the economy over time and create jobs, despite the national government’s job crushing policies. And South Africans are voting with their feet, specifically in search of jobs and better service delivery.
Next time you want to attack the DA, make sure you do so on the basis of the facts, not by twisting the employment stats to cover up for the wholesale destruction of jobs that your government has perpetrated since 2009.
Regards,
Geordin Hill-Lewis MP
http://www.da.org.za/2015/02/open-letter-ebrahim-patel/