SONA 2021

[vigras rojara]

Farm workers minimum wage is increasing 16% this year. What do you think is going to happen? I'll tell you, food will get more expensive defeating the point of minimum wage, workers will get laid off and farmers will start moving to mechanised production.

If they can't afford a 16% wage increase, how will they afford mechanisation?

 

[wingnut771]

If they can't afford a 16% wage increase, how will they afford mechanisation?

Once off cost vs continued cost.

 

[vigras rojara]

Once off cost vs continued cost.

So not leasing anything then?

 

[BeerIsNotGood...]

Just me. In the future I might have to hire someone, but my workload doesn't justify it right now.



I mean it will, but it's not going to ruin that kind of business. Unless somehow your profits are less than R3500 a month and doubling the minimum wage would sink you.

If that's the case, then you have much bigger problems to worry about.

Why not triple?

Why stop at double..

Because according to you the minimum wage has no impact on the economy

 

[wingnut771]

So not leasing anything then?

Finance, paid off in 5 years. Payments can be made up by reducing staff.

 

[Former member 61586]

Finance, paid off in 5 years. Payments can be made up by reducing staff.

You are being trolled.

 

[vigras rojara]

Finance, paid off in 5 years. Payments can be made up by reducing staff.

Amazing. Maybe they can start buying tractors and combine harvesters now?

 

[wingnut771]

Amazing. Maybe they can start buying tractors and combine harvesters now?

That's how the rest of the world works.

 

[vigras rojara]

That's how the rest of the world works.

The rest of the world with minimum wage legislation?

 

[ForceFate]

That's how the rest of the world works.

Why is our farming labour intensive?

 

[LaraC]

Who else is planning to abandon the taxpayer base?

The latest tax amendments make it a criminal offence to evade your tax responsibility.

Remember to keep your record clean before you exit.

 

[wingnut771]

Why is our farming labour intensive?

because it used to be cheaper than machines, now not so much. Added bonus going mechanised is no more strikes and terrorists setting fire to your stuff. Next to go mechanised is mining imo.

 

[wingnut771]

The rest of the world with minimum wage legislation?

Yes.

 

[vigras rojara]

Yes.

So most of the world has minimum wage legislation. How horrible!

 

[wingnut771]

So most of the world has minimum wage legislation. How horrible!

It's just the 1 percenters shutting up the 99 percenters. Eventually it won't be enough.

 

[vigras rojara]

It's just the 1 percenters shutting up the 99 percenters. Eventually it won't be enough.

It's all good. There will be no need for minimum wage earners once everyone has mechanised everything.

 

[wingnut771]

It's all good. There will be no need for minimum wage earners once everyone has mechanised everything.

I'm waiting for the replicator from star trek. "cup of earl grey tea please".

 

[vigras rojara]

I'm waiting for the replicator from star trek. "cup of earl grey tea please".

Haha!

 

[ForceFate]

because it used to be cheaper than machines, now not so much. Added bonus going mechanised is no more strikes and terrorists setting fire to your stuff. Next to go mechanised is mining imo.

Was it living wages though? I heard of the dop system in the Cape. Does it still exist?

 

[rambo919]

Was it living wages though? I heard of the dop system in the Cape. Does it still exist?

Does it matter if it was living wages?

Simple economics means using the cheapest labour, if you have a small army of people that are cheaper to use than machines you will hire them, if machines are cheaper than labourers.... you will buy machines. Jobs are dynamically created and as soon as you tamper with them they start dissapearing.

Morals have nothing to do with what the farmer can actually afford to do with his limited resources.