Rouxenator
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I'm gonna have to take your word for that because I really do not have the money or time to waste on such large TVs.
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I'm gonna have to take your word for that because I really do not have the money or time to waste on such large TVs.
Maybe if you try and think back a few years you would realise it took some time for DVD to take off as well.
Uuuuuh no. HD-DVD made way for BD. There are hundreds of BD movies already available.
Not for a good couple of years I'm afraid. An HD movie is at least 10 Gigs a pop - even with very fast internet connections these will take some time to download. As for streaming these - not with current technology
They're not about to stream HD movies
Rouxenator
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OK - so here is the thing : DVD is very popular for movies because you can easily [-]copy them[/-] write your own ones. Drives are cheap and so is the media.
BD will become popular BUT only after the writers and media drop in price so that people can easily [-]copy rentals[/-] backup BD movies they own.
BD will become popular BUT only after the writers and media drop in price so that people can easily [-]copy rentals[/-] backup BD movies they own.
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I half agree with Rouxenator, HD (especially 1080p) needs a BIG screen. 42 inch doesn't cut it, unless you want to sit a metre and a half from the screen. It does however make sense when you've got an HD projector and a 3m wide screen. We need early adopters *cough*suckers*cough* to buy into new technology and pay for all that R&D. I'll upgrade to BD when HD projectors are affordable, and then get some use out of those 1080 lines.
Sony's got a table of viewing distances on their website, I think a 52 inch TV = 2m viewing distance for full HD.
Sony's got a table of viewing distances on their website, I think a 52 inch TV = 2m viewing distance for full HD.
Maybe if you try and think back a few years you would realise it took some time for DVD to take off as well.Uuuuuh no. HD-DVD made way for BD. There are hundreds of BD movies already available.Not for a good couple of years I'm afraid. An HD movie is at least 10 Gigs a pop - even with very fast internet connections these will take some time to download. As for streaming these - not with current technology
either there are hundreds of movies available or there arent. From what i've seen, there've been a few re-releases of old movies, but the majority of movies are released to DVD and only a select few to BR.
sa internet != very fast... with a decent broadband connection you can stream a 720p movie faster than you can watch it...
xbox 360 are indeed streaming hd movies, and have been for a while
ToxicBunny
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Rouxenator : DVD's are popular because they're a cheap and easy way to have ALOT of movie in your own home that you can watch over and over again, not because you can copy them easily....
BD will become popular when the players and the movies are cheaper.. not when the writers and blank media become cheaper...
BD will become popular when the players and the movies are cheaper.. not when the writers and blank media become cheaper...
genetic
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Blu-Ray is the preferred format for HD, and it is here to stay. It's still relatively new on the market and still expensive. Remember how pricey DVD's were 8 years or so ago??
Blu-Ray will surpass DVD within the next few years with regards to popularity and preferred format for movies.
Read about it here
Blu-Ray will surpass DVD within the next few years with regards to popularity and preferred format for movies.
Read about it here
arf9999
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riiiiight http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?
Decent means faster than 30Mbps? Even cable broadband movies running at 20Mbps are considered "HD-lite" because the compression artifacts are so obvious.
So has Apple TV... but that doesn't mean that physical disks are obsolete.
eish... get with the times... physical media with content on it, is on its way out. The future is "thin". Media delivery of the future is streaming based. Even NetFlix in the states has an option to stream some of the movies and TV shows. Hell - it makes sense to stream rather than have the disc. TV has been streaming since its inception. The next logical step is where you choose what you want to stream. Blu-ray is a fascinating technology, but certainly not the holy grail.
Its basically souped-up DVD, and a stop gap measure. Think about it like this: Do you see yourself ordering discs 10 years in the future and waiting 24hrs for them to be delivered. Or do you see yourself clicking a button on your home theater system and instantly watching the latest release via streaming...
Its basically souped-up DVD, and a stop gap measure. Think about it like this: Do you see yourself ordering discs 10 years in the future and waiting 24hrs for them to be delivered. Or do you see yourself clicking a button on your home theater system and instantly watching the latest release via streaming...
arf9999
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Where did anyone say that it is the only solution? Blu-ray has its place, as does streaming, but right now I'll take the quality that a physical format can deliver. If you want to wait another 3-5 years for decent HD quality, enjoy the wait.
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Sony BDP-S350? Na, I'm better of getting a Sony PS3 or compromise for the quieter Panasonic DMP-BD55 which has IR.
arf9999
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... and isn't available in SA. Only thing that the Pana offers over the Sony is onboard decoding of surround. Not worth the extra $150 imo.
Rubbish. Even 20Mbps connections in the UK struggle to stream movies at standard 480i without big buffers.
Odd. That's exactly what people were saying when DVD came out
Streaming an HD movie in the States with an uncapped data package might make sense, but broadband in SA is too slow and too expensive for this to be a viable option. At the moment I think it would be cheaper to buy the Blu Ray disc than try and download it in full HD.
Of course, you can download a pirate copy in DivX or some other compressed format, but then why waste your money on that 42" or 50" LCD?
Streaming movies may be in our future, but right now the best way to fully utilise that new TV is via Blu Ray. Second best is DSTV's HD chanel, if only they would sort their decoder out!!!
Of course, you can download a pirate copy in DivX or some other compressed format, but then why waste your money on that 42" or 50" LCD?
Streaming movies may be in our future, but right now the best way to fully utilise that new TV is via Blu Ray. Second best is DSTV's HD chanel, if only they would sort their decoder out!!!
Rouxenator
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Wrong.
Remember ATRAC CDs from Sony ? Remember SACD ? Remember DVD-Audio ? Well thats all we can do, remember them, cause they are dead. Sure they had many advantages over standard audio CDs but most people already had CD players and already got their favorite music on CDs. So they did not bother with the audiophiles grandest new inventions. Plus they could easily make [-]copies[/-] backups of their CDs.
MP3 is only recently becoming more popular as it is more portable and much easier to [-]copy[/-] manage. Add to that MP3 was at first hated by the industry, so industry endorsement means zilch. It is all about the [-]dumb[/-] consumers and if they can justify getting all their DVDs on BD soon after shifting from VHS. In short, no.
As we have seen, consumers embrace something only if it is a major improvement over what they have. CDs where much better than tapes and LPs, so they went for it. It took them 25 years before they starting getting into the MP3 thing because they have much more control over MP3, the audio it makes is very much the same.
They went for DVDs because it was much better than VHS. Now they have a lot more control over DVD as they can [-]copy rentals[/-] buckup their own DVDs and also produce them with every second burner software package. Slowly they are embracing DivX and other MPEG4 standards for the same reasons as MP3s.
BD will take a very long time before it makes an impact on the market. Firstly it will have to become as cheap, if not cheaper, than DVD. Also consumers will want control over it, they will want to [-]copy[/-] backup BD without problems and make their own. Most digital cameras are now offering HD movie modes.
Remember - all my statements above are based on consumer trends - something you cannot reason with or apply fancy logic to such as the lines it produces on a display. Much like a woman
Rouxenator: even though I've been warned to not engage with you, I'd like to point out that you're basing your argument on the hypothesis that the life or ending of a format depends on how easy it is to [-]pirate[/-] copy. Please show me the consumer trends you allegedly used in your research when you make these blanket statements...