For those wondering about de-branding their Satio, I used the guys at DavinciTeam. Its quick and painless - costs the equivalent of R100 which can be paid for using PayPal. The phone now has the latest firmware and when SE do decide to bring out a new release you can use SEUS. I can't understand Vodacom still forcing V-Live handsets on people who clearly do not want to live with buggy firmware long after the issues have been resolved and running in non branded handsets.