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The higher the percent of parents in a nation who used corporal punishment with teenagers, the lower the national average IQ. Credit: Murray Straus

Children who are spanked have lower IQs worldwide, including in the United States, according to new groundbreaking research by University of New Hampshire professor Murray Straus. The research results will be presented Friday, Sept. 25, 2009, at the 14th International Conference on Violence, Abuse and Trauma, in San Diego, Calif.

"All parents want smart children. This research shows that avoiding spanking and correcting misbehavior in other ways can help that happen," Straus says. "The results of this research have major implications for the well being of children across the globe."

"It is time for psychologists to recognize the need to help parents end the use of corporal punishment and incorporate that objective into their teaching and clinical practice. It also is time for the United States to begin making the advantages of not spanking a public health and child welfare focus, and eventually enact federal no-spanking legislation," he says.

IQ and Spanking in America

Straus found that children in the United States who were spanked had lower IQs four years later than those who were not spanked.

Children who are spanked have lower IQs, new research finds
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American children who were spanked had a lower cognitive ability score four years later. Credit: Murray Straus
Straus and Mallie Paschall, senior research scientist at the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation, studied nationally representative samples of 806 children ages 2 to 4, and 704 ages 5 to 9. Both groups were retested four years later.

IQs of children ages 2 to 4 who were not spanked were 5 points higher four years later than the IQs of those who were spanked. The IQs of children ages 5 to 9 years old who were not spanked were 2.8 points higher four years later than the IQs of children the same age who were spanked.

"How often parents spanked made a difference. The more spanking the, the slower the development of the child's mental ability. But even small amounts of spanking made a difference," Straus says.

IQ and Spanking Worldwide

Straus also found a lower national average IQ in nations in which spanking was more prevalent. His analysis indicates the strongest link between corporal punishment and IQ was for those whose parents continued to use corporal punishment even when they were teenagers.

Straus and colleagues in 32 nations used data on corporal punishment experienced by 17,404 university students when they were children.

According to Straus, there are two explanations for the relation of corporal punishment to lower IQ.

Children who are spanked have lower IQs, new research finds
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The More Spanking, the Greater the Probability of Post-Traumatic Stress Symptoms.
First, corporal punishment is extremely stressful and can become a chronic stressor for young children, who typically experience corporal punishment three or more times a week. For many it continues for years. The research found that the stress of corporal punishment shows up as an increase in post-traumatic stress symptoms such as being fearful that terrible things are about to happen and being easily startled. These symptoms are associated with lower IQ.

Second, a higher national level of economic development underlies both fewer parents using corporal punishment and a higher national IQ.

The good news is that the use of corporal punishment has been decreasing worldwide, which may signal future gains in IQ across the globe.

"The worldwide trend away from corporal punishment is most clearly reflected in the 24 nations that legally banned corporal punishment by 2009. Both the European Union and the United Nations have called on all member nations to prohibit corporal punishment by parents. Some of the 24 nations that prohibit corporal punishment by parents have made vigorous efforts to inform the public and assist parents in managing their children. In others little has been done to implement the prohibition," Straus says.

"Nevertheless, there is evidence that attitudes favoring corporal punishment and actual use of corporal punishment have been declining even in nations that have done little to implement the law and in nations which have not prohibited corporal punishment," he says.

Source: University of New Hampshire
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Http://www.physorg.com/news173077612.html&ei=BJm-SvziAp7UjAfVvL1O

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1926222,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

what will the connies say this time?
 
good thing some schools don't implement it then, i mean some people who come out of them are already curing up the low end.
 
I wonder if they took into account the parents' iqs as well. I think parents who spank instead of finding other ways to discipline children have a lower iq than those who find different methods(thinking out the box usually indicates higher iq). If true then the as-yet-baseless but generally accepted notion of lower iq parents tend to have lower iq children in general applies(obviously there are exceptions).

On the flipside i have seen that if children are not spanked they tend to play more than those that are spanked, and we all know a playful child is a well-rounded and -adjusted child.
 
Haha, Korea, Hong Kong, Japan, China, most of them spank their children yet they rank the world in IQ
 
They run some IQ tests and jump to "cognitive ability". A bit of an old leap of faith thinking that IQ tests measure cognitive ability, I'd say. The whole thing smells like typical psychobabble BS.
 
What a load of total and utter crap!

Really. You guys all prefer mind control over a swift smack on the bum? Watch the "experts" training dogs not to pee in the house. What do they do when the dog does? A smack on the bum with a rolled newspaper and stick their nose in it!

I would rather have disciplined children with minusculey lower IQs than the future anarchists you see running around now ever since corporal punishment was outlawed!

And we are not talking about beating a child here before you guys get your arguments muddled.
 
I have seen patents for bird diapers and a floating umbrella. I am not sure the amount of patents per capita really proves much. Also some countries also have a lot easy patent processes.
 
Reptilian said:
IQ tests work, they may not be 100% but neurologists and psychologists state them as the most sucessful (sic) (sic - something missing) of current intelligence, albeit not always 100%, certainly successful.
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IQ tests measure what IQ tests measure. You can go correlate the results with other things, sure, and maybe find pointers to something or other. But they do not measure intelligence, to use the term in its normal public English meaning, no matter how psychology tries to confine and limit that definition.
 
Reptilian said:
No, the measure of patents per capita are pretty usful, as patents are hard to apply for and usually require some important reason. this can only be done by a highly intellectual group of people.
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Damn, you are right. I don't think I'd be able to complete the process for applying for a patent...

*Prepare a complete and detailed description of your invention, including graphs, diagrams, drawings and charts---all information and specifications that would be necessary for a manufacturer to build a working prototype. Include specific descriptions in support of your invention's novelty, utility and nonobviousness. This step will require the assistance of an experienced patent attorney.

*Apply for registration of your patent with the USPTO using the documentation you prepared in step 4. Much of the application can be submitted online. You will also have to pay a filing fee that varies according to the specific facts of your application and submit a sworn declaration of the truth of your application.
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But let's forget this petty argument now. Please share with us how do you go about disciplining your children if you may be so kind? Yes, I don't only spank them but there are occasions in which a spanking is the best means of "teaching a lesson". You need to bear in mind it is not the force of the smack that makes them realise they are doing wrong but the action. I am not talking about drawing blood etc. Time outs etc do not work in the real world. The child will end up playing with what ever is around them or because of our hectic lives the parent will not be able sit around waiting for the punishment time to pass and end up giving in.

The world has become too PC!
 
duhh! does that mean i would have done gooder at school if i didn't spank?
 
Reptilian said:
in really how many times are children actually spanked for the right reason? how are children supposed to know if they are spanked for the right reason? and who has to judge? is it fair?
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As a parent I feel I am well within my rights to be the judge, jury and executioner! This crap about children having the right to sue the parents etc is just that, crap! I am the one who has to live with the consequences of my child's upbringing, no one else. I will bring them up as I see fit to ensure they grow up to become valuable members of our society.

NO NO NO, it is puppetry, same thing happens in all of the rouge states right now. the person is forced to believe something one way, and that's all they know, they are not allowed to think for themselves and now there is no way out but to become a vampire too
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You are seriously jumbling a whole stack of different discussions together here. We are talking about MY (and of course everyone who has children) children here. Not some member of society. I have a one year old child and a 10 year old. They are not born knowing right from wrong. The are a blank canvas. Of course I have to instil the values I believe in in them! They are free to think for themselves at any time but those thoughts, and subsequent actions, will be overseen by me.

My parents wanted to beat me for not eating all my food, is that really correct? later i became a fatty, yet i never really had a thing for sweets
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You cannot project your issues onto everyone else. We also have battles with eating. All parents do. A child cannot make their own choices regarding what they eat. If they did it would be pizza, hotdogs, burgers, KFC etc every night of the week. Who is then to blame when they suffer from a health perspective later in life? I have 30 odd years of food knowledge to share with them.

Again I said that certain circumstances call for a spanking. Not eating your food would probably not be one for me but I will insist the child sit there and finish the food on their plate. This can be as "damaging" as you felt the "beating" was but a line needs to be drawn.

rather show the child what they have done wrong the same way that happens to an adult, give them a fair trail, and if they don't have a reason for what they have done and would not want the same to be done to them, then seek a decent(although effective) form of punnishment. i never said that punnishment is wrong.
or perhaps treat the child for doing right, bargin with him for getting good grades ie R500 for ever A...
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Oh, ok so it's fine to teach bribery but not to spank :rolleyes: I am reading into this specific post that you do not actually have your own children yet? Again though, feel free to share that "decent form of punishment" with us?

And you also seem to have drawn conclusions about spanking. I follow the same process you are preaching but sometimes the "sentence" of the child is found "guilty" will be a spanking. It is never a knee jerk reaction. Actually I am lying, almost every parent has lost their cool and given a swift smack to the offending child.

perhaps the government should do this too. give R500 for every A and double it up for every following A, something of the like, reward a child for doing good, instead of for nothing, and show a child what they have done wrong, give them a chance to speak.
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I am totally opposed to getting rewarded for something you should be hoping to achieve anyway! A well done and maybe a celebratory dinner if the child is successful but not a planned payment plan!
 
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