Spanking lowers IQ

BrandonH said:
There's a difference between spanking and abuse.
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I assume you are referring to the main thread, not our little digression?

If not, well, "spanking your monkey" often used to be termed "self-abuse". Stop abusing yourself in order to get that grant now, Wayne!
;):D
 
rwenzori said:
I assume you are referring to the main thread, not our little digression?

If not, well, "spanking your monkey" often used to be termed "self-abuse". Stop abusing yourself in order to get that grant now, Wayne!
;):D
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but mommy needs the money.
 
I got smacked as a child, and you know what? I'm grateful :D
I look at my friends who weren't, disrespect their parents and I think absolutely ridiculous.
 
Before posting on this topic, the poster must start with "I have 2 kids and I support/do not support (delete applicable)...."

I have 2 kids and I support giving kids a hiding as a last resort. I also support BrandonH's post of "there is a difference between spanking and abuse.

You can only reason with kids to a certain point, thereafter you must resort to action. The good old action/reaction cognizance comes into play; if you step over this line, you will get a hiding.
 
Reptilian, you failed to answer the one question I asked. This makes me assume you do not have kids... I'll speak to you again when you do. I will never try to lecture someone on how to play golf if I do not play golf myself.

You also seem to be heading further and further off your own original topic as you are now discussing how to bring your child up rather than specifically using spanking as a form of punishment.

I was spanked and I suffer no psychological damage from it (of course you probably will say how do I know but then I can argue how do they know that spanking was what affected those kids IQs. It may have been coincidence). I was made to eat all the dinner I was served up and I have no weight issues.

Unless you want to look after my kids full time and take responsibility for the rest of their lives then I will deal with them as I see fit and as I feel will be in their best interests.
 
at school you were too scared of stepping out of line because first of all the prefects or teachers would send you to principals office for a hiding. now because of the capial punishment nonsense some of our schools are full of skollies who have no respect for the teachers as they know they are untouchable.
 
Reptilian said:
and those skollie should be put to justice, in a juve or something. this is the policy and this is exactly what is not happening, why? because it's not 'fashionable here to do. who is behind this? old-school connies. the teachers i went to ain tonotify only said later in class that those offending pupils (bullies), had their parents give them a good hiding, and that it sought theproblem out. after that, perhaps a dozen cellphones stolen, rubbish bins placed insid'e those very white teachers classrooms, nothing done but a 'good beating. really it solves nothing at all. i've witnessed this on innumerable occasions, and in nearl all of them too, many of those i knew, who were these scoundrels, actually brag andsupport theses beatings too. it is completely pointless. you are not teaching the child anthing or bringing them to anything, you are only placing them in a directionless one-way mindset, doesn't lead anywhere.
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You have how many kids?
 
this all starts at home anyway if the parents brought up their kids properly then you would not have a problem or at least it would not be a big problem.
 
Reptilian has still not told us of his personal parenting experience nor has he told us about these great discipline techniques he seems to hold in such high regard.

If that "directionless, one way mind set" I am placing my children in means they grow up well disciplined, well mannered and respectful then bring on the spanking!
 
Reptilian said:
and those skollie should be put to justice, in a juve or something. this is the policy and this is exactly what is not happening, why? because it's not 'fashionable here to do. who is behind this? old-school connies. the teachers i went to ain tonotify only said later in class that those offending pupils (bullies), had their parents give them a good hiding, and that it sought theproblem out. after that, perhaps a dozen cellphones stolen, rubbish bins placed insid'e those very white teachers classrooms, nothing done but a 'good beating. really it solves nothing at all. i've witnessed this on innumerable occasions, and in nearl all of them too, many of those i knew, who were these scoundrels, actually brag andsupport theses beatings too. it is completely pointless. you are not teaching the child anthing or bringing them to anything, you are only placing them in a directionless one-way mindset, doesn't lead anywhere.
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It sounds like you should go on a Charles Atlas course, so you don't get sand kicked in your face LOL!

:D:D
 
Reptilian I have no idea how you would have seen parents spanking and disciplining their kids at school. Further to this, as I said earlier, I do not lecture on how to play golf if I do not play golf myself. You'd do well to do the same....
 
When you have kids of your own you can come give me advice on discpline.
 
Reptilian said:
Just that, from my own sight, it's always the troublemakers who are beaten the hardest, and my friends who are at university who weren't hit..
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Spanking is not beating. If you think so, then that's something you should take up with your folks and a therapist...
 
Reptilian said:
then what is the point of spanking?
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You can't be serious? If you're under the impression that people who spank their kids are in fact beating ten types of shyte out of them, you're sorely mistaken. The point of spanking is pretty self-explanatory and doesn't require an answer as well...
 
Reptilian said:
parants are allowed to force their children to do something without the childs own rights, without them the child having a say, and that causes the problem.
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You have no idea what you're talking about now. And I have no idea what this has to do with spanking? :confused:

I think you'll find many, if not most parents listen to their kids, but decisions are ultimately those of the parents, not the child...
 
Reptilian said:
the point of spanking is to enforce a view on a young one. enforcement is not justice nor does it teach anything, iit is not fair in structure.

as i've said, i am not against justice, i simply want fair true justice, instead of assuming that the parant is always correct, and that the child has no rights.
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I think you're doing a lot of projecting here. Sounds to me like you have your own issues to deal with and are under the false impression that all parents act and behave in the manner you're accustomed to. It just aint the case...
 
I'm outta this debate before I offend the projecting hippie...
 
You have a very one-sided view. Wait until you are the parent and the roles are reversed. There is a significant difference between expressing your opinion and ill-discipline.
 
Problem with allowing spanking.. is the person giving the spanking and their personality. Some of my friends used to be smacked silly when I was in school... by their parents. It was insane.

Think how RZA must treat his children with corporal punishment.

Ive always had a problem with authority, Im not a sucker to be someone elses biatch. I went to an all boys school where they had some real sadists that I am sure got hard on hitting kids. The education system is designed for the lowest common denominator and not everyone can gel in that kinda environment. If I think about it, the hidings I got made me more reserved than I should have being in an academic institution. I might have done a bit better had I not being so scared of doing something wrong.
 
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