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I know theres a few threads about neotel speeds, but they confuse me...

I want to know wat the guys are getting on neotel prime uncapped?
Download speeds, so wen you are downloading a file it goes at how many kb per second.

Guys complain about 150kb/s, now im not sure if thats the line speed they getting on a speed tester or wat, but if its 150kb/s(a document of 150kb downloads in a second) then its fast i think. My friend has a 384 telkom line he gets between 20-45kb/s(150kb file takes 7 seconds).

So if you guys can clear this up for me, i would like to know how long your 150kb file takes to download haha:p
 
Ryansta said:
I know theres a few threads about neotel speeds, but they confuse me...

I want to know wat the guys are getting on neotel prime uncapped?
Download speeds, so wen you are downloading a file it goes at how many kb per second.

Guys complain about 150kb/s, now im not sure if thats the line speed they getting on a speed tester or wat, but if its 150kb/s(a document of 150kb downloads in a second) then its fast i think. My friend has a 384 telkom line he gets between 20-45kb/s(150kb file takes 7 seconds).

So if you guys can clear this up for me, i would like to know how long your 150kb file takes to download haha:p
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You'll probably find you've misread that download speed. If you look carefully you'll notice that most downloaders (especially if your friend uses the default downloader on Firefox) measure speed in KB not kb. You'll find your friend is actually getting 20-45KB not kb.

There are 8 bits in one byte. Therefore:
20KBx8 = 160kb
45KBx8 = 360kb

Your friend is actually getting 160kb - 360kb. Quite a bit faster than Neotel's 150kb when you look at it that way.

Hope that clears it up.

EDIT: Also note that all data transfer connections (including your internet connection) are measured in bits not bytes, while storage is measured in bytes, therefore you will find that that "150kb" file is in fact a 150KB file, which is 8 times larger than you think it is. i.e. it is 150kBx8= 1200kb
 
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Don't forget that advertised line speeds are rated at absolute maximum for that technology. You can't take that value, divide it by 8 and expect you will download your stuff at that speed. You'd find that you never reach that speed, unless your download manager is incorrectly reporting speeds.

When transferring data, it is usually broken down into smaller parts and encapsulated inside TCP, IP, PPP, ethernet, etc. packets, so even though you receive at 384kbps, the overheads and lost packets result in a lower data rate reception in terms of what you were looking for (for instance a patch for a game, or some file). The ratio of header size vs. data is dependent on your current TCP window size, which increases slowly as more packets are successfully received. When a packet is dropped, that window size is usually halved (dependent on the windowing algorithm used).

The point I am trying to make is that you probably can't take the download rate stated by, for instance, your download manager in KB/s and multiply it by 8 to get your true line speed at that time. I'm just wondering if the "speedtests" actually take all that into consideration and report a true line speed, or do they just multiply received application data rate by 8?
 
Haha ok maybe its me confusing the rest but thats not my problem. I understand that you get line speeds, 256, 384, 512, 1024 and 4096 as examples. Now those values you divide by 8 to get your "download speed" +/-.

Sorry about the kb or KB. We'll talk in kilo bits and kilo bytes.

Now im asking how many kilo bytes do neotel users get per second on the prime uncapped package? IF the slowest they get is 150 kilo bytes per second then thats not bad even though it supposed to be faster its still beta than most. BUT if the go on speedtest.net and they get 150 download and watever upload then i agree its slow.


At work Download: 921 kbps(on speedtest.net) = we get from 60 to 110KB/s wen downloading its a 1mb line
 
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Ryansta said:
Haha ok maybe its me confusing the rest but thats not my problem. I understand that you get line speeds, 256, 384, 512, 1024 and 4096 as examples. Now those values you divide by 8 to get your "download speed" +/-.

Sorry about the kb or KB. We'll talk in kilo bits and kilo bytes.

Now im asking how many kilo bytes do neotel users get per second on the prime uncapped package? IF the slowest they get is 150 kilo bytes per second then thats not bad even though it supposed to be faster its still beta than most. BUT if the go on speedtest.net and they get 150 download and watever upload then i agree its slow.


At work Download: 921 kbps(on speedtest.net) = we get from 60 to 110KB/s wen downloading its a 1mb line
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I was getting 1500kbps(on speedtest.net) on my Neotel Prime Uncapped. Now its down to 230kbps. IE from 187KB/Sec download speed to 28.7KB/Sec.
So the download speed is 6.6 times slower, clear up the confusion?
 
In Paulshof, I get around 240 - 560kb/s (30 - 70kB/s) download speeds. In the Alberton area, I'm currently getting 923kb/s (115kB/s) on speedtest.net. I've experienced sustained speeds of over 200kB/s on some downloads. It all depends on location and time of day.
 
@orin76, those are great speeds I would be so lucky if I could come close to those speeds, I have not managed to get more than 100kpbs out of my Prime package on average. Not even spikes nothing....

Hope they resolve this matter....
 
I got great speeds for about 2 weeks, then they dropped to half the speeds.

I have PM'd Neotel rep to find out about this, but no replies yet, oke must be very busy. :)
 
Never received great,good or fair speeds on my promised excelent signal...got an yagi & still nothing with an rssi of 64...tonight when they put that debit order through tonight im reversing it tomorrow morning first thing...good luck to all!!!
 
Best I've seen on my Neoflex connection (had it just over a month now) is around 70-80KB sustained. Most of the time it's half that, and the rest of the time (like NOW Neotel Rep!) it's a measly 12KB against neotel's own speed test server.

It would be a real shame to have to crawl back to Telkom :-(
 
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