Splitting SAT-3..is it possible

[Jonny Two Shoes]

Hey all, this may seem like a dumb question.

Anyway looking at the SAT-3 and how it branches off to each country in Africa from the side, whats stopping someone from somehow splitting this cable? Look I know its no ordinary cable but is this possible?? Are there points where this can be done??

Reason Im asking is because as far as I know Telkom is not the major owner of the cable but they do control the exchange at the point going in and out of SA which allows them to charge so much. So whats stopping a company like Neotel who's major shareholder is also the major owner of SAT-3 from extending a part of this cable technically behind the exchange??? does this work?? can you split such a cable??

Come on Im just thinking as I type here But this way they don't have to invest in SAFE and EASSY cable and all that bull and it would be a much smaller project.

 

[bwana]

I would imagine that it is quite a mission to split the cable - any branches would probably have had to be planned into the initial constriction/laying of it.

 

[dominic]

@ the moment the SAT-3 shareholders agreement prevents VSNL from doing this...telkom's exclusivity under this agreement will expire in march/nov this year depending on who you believe

i am not sure that what you propose is technically or economically feasible

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

Still I think it wont be nearly as difficult as getting a whole new cable extended all the way to Europe or North Africa and also getting all those countries to sign the agreements and our stupid government to wake up.

Then maybe someone more reasonable will have their own exchange, competition on that side may drastically improve our bandwidth allocation and price. Sorry im just wondering about all of this

 

[dominic]

easiest will be to bite the bullet and enter a facilities leasing agreement with telkom and then wait for govt/ICASA to get its act together on declaring the landing station and related facilities as being essential (and them imposing wholesale or wholesale + pricing)

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

Yes but seeing plans for 2011 seems a bit dismal. And I don't know if it was a typo but one article not so long ago mention our broadband plans for 2030. Surely there must be another way? n' Boer maak 'n plan as they say

 

[bwana]

Still I think it wont be nearly as difficult as getting a whole new cable extended all the way to Europe or North Africa and also getting all those countries to sign the agreements and our stupid government to wake up.

Then maybe someone more reasonable will have their own exchange, competition on that side may drastically improve our bandwidth allocation and price. Sorry im just wondering about all of this

Problem is that cable has a finite capacity and SA only has a share in it along with all of the other consortium members. We need additional cables.

There are many reasons why the other countries are reluctant to sign the eassy agreements - one fear is that government and the telco's will create a similar situation that happened with SAT3. The cable is supposed to benefit the people and not just the businesses.

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

Problem is that cable has a finite capacity and SA only has a share in it along with all of the other consortium members. We need additional cables.

There are many reasons why the other countries are reluctant to sign the eassy agreements - one fear is that government and the telco's will create a similar situation that happened with SAT3. The cable is supposed to benefit the people and not just the businesses.

I see.

 

[dominic]

the finite capacity is however far from being fully utilised - notice the statement from telkom that they recently doubled the available capacity

a portion of the available capacity is not lit up - so as to ensure scarcity of supply

 

[The_Unbeliever]

the finite capacity is however far from being fully utilised - notice the statement from telkom that they recently doubled the available capacity

a portion of the available capacity is not lit up - so as to ensure scarcity of supply

these guys think of everything...

...now where can I take "Screwing the Public 101"?

 

[ColinR]

the finite capacity is however far from being fully utilised - notice the statement from telkom that they recently doubled the available capacity

a portion of the available capacity is not lit up - so as to ensure scarcity of supply

Ala De Beers style

 

[Toby]

A Router at a Landing station north of South africa could do the Trick.

According to www.safe-sat3.co.za Angola (Cacuaco) will do.

A Landbased Fibre through the desert of namibia into the Northern Cape should do.

From their www.wug.za.net And www.jawug.za.net should do be able to handle the rest.

Who needs Telkom

 

[Jonny Two Shoes]

A Router at a Landing station north of South africa could do the Trick.

According to www.safe-sat3.co.za Angola (Cacuaco) will do.

A Landbased Fibre through the desert of namibia into the Northern Cape should do.

From their www.wug.za.net And www.jawug.za.net should do be able to handle the rest.

Who needs Telkom

You see now there must be a way...at least it might take care of Telkom for a while I want to see that company dropped for good.

They want to drop by 5% only?? Im sure this will solve their shyte

 

[BobbyMac]

easiest will be to bite the bullet and enter a facilities leasing agreement with telkom and then wait for govt/ICASA to get its act together on declaring the landing station and related facilities as being essential (and them imposing wholesale or wholesale + pricing)

Is such a move on the cards or will we be holding our breath till boredom or death takes us?