Springboks EOYT 2012

Overprivileged said:
It's important that the NATIONAL team of South Africa actually represents the demographics of the country otherwise we risk alienating the suffering and oppressed black masses.
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Don't you think we should just pick the best players? Is it really that difficult?
 
MickeyD said:
Rubbish. Oppressed???? Who the f**k is oppressing them? Players of colour (and I thoroghly despise that term) have more opportunities at every level of rugby than "white" players.

Now please go away with your racial tendencies before I touch you on your studio.
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+ several thousand squillion (not the touching part, the other bit)
 
MickeyD said:
Rubbish. Oppressed???? Who the f**k is oppressing them? Players of colour (and I thoroughly despise that term) have more opportunities at every level of rugby than "white" players.

Now please go away with your racial tendencies before I touch you on your studio.
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Firstly, why do you hate the term "people of colour" and secondly, "touch you on your studio" makes no sense at all.
 
Overprivileged said:
Thank you! Aplon has the agility and pace of a cheetah whereas Joe P has the agility and pace of an elephant.
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Lambie is a better fullback then both of them, and Zane is a more reliable fullback than both of them..... Why would you pick either Joe or Aplon on Fullback?

I would like to have Aplon of the bench with hougaard..... that could work.
 
Devill said:
Lambie is a better fullback then both of them, and Zane is a more reliable fullback than both of them..... Why would you pick either Joe or Aplon on Fullback?

I would like to have Aplon of the bench with hougaard..... that could work.
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MickeyD is the one pushing for Joe P's inclusion, not me.
 
Lambie is not a good fullblack because he's too slow, doesn't have a good jump on him and doesn't have the ability to break the line.
 
Overprivileged said:
Lambie is not a good fullblack because he's too slow, doesn't have a good jump on him and doesn't have the ability to break the line.
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+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
 
Overprivileged said:
Lambie is not a good fullblack because he's too slow, doesn't have a good jump on him and doesn't have the ability to break the line.
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Quite the contrary. Has the complete skill set ie strong defensive game, proficient kicker both at goal and at polls, he can most definitely break the line and I wouldn't describe him as slow. Yeah he can't jump but then white men can't.
 
lets leave colour out of the equation. we all know Mvovo and JDJ are merit selections and not on colour. i hate when people refer to someone's colour, rather then his ability. Devill keep asking why those 2 should be inlcuded, instead of asking why Taute and Hougaard should still be in the starting 15. those 2 have a few games under their belt already. why can't HM not give the same opportunities to the other 2. I am disgusted at HM for picking players because of colour. he should be ashamed of his selection policy, it simply stinks.
 
Overprivileged said:
Thank you! Aplon has the agility and pace of a cheetah whereas Joe P has the agility and pace of an elephant.
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Well, I think Joe P is a fine player. It's just that Aplon is a better fb and can turn a game in a moment of brilliance.

But do you really believe that players should be selected on skin colour? Because it seems to me you do and then NOTHING you say or any argument you can give for Aplon, JdJ or Mvovo will ever stand up to scrutiny. Not only is it insulting to the players and any other black player, it's a surefire way to divide the country. And accusing Meyer of not picking players because they are not white, is akin to accusing him of racism.

But ffs, is there no end to this bs?
 
Overprivileged said:
It's important that the NATIONAL team of South Africa actually represents the demographics of the country otherwise we risk alienating the suffering and oppressed black masses.
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That 100% OK, Alienate the idiots if they think rugby is about race. What do want, an "excellent" achieving team like our useless national soccer team than cannot even compete in Africa let alone against top schools or varsities? I think you sound like a clone of the idiot that used to scream every day about white privilege. ;)

The best player on the day should get the call, demographics can take it's time just like evolution did. ;)
 
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sand_man said:
Quite the contrary. Has the complete skill set ie strong defensive game, proficient kicker both at goal and at polls, he can most definitely break the line and I wouldn't describe him as slow. Yeah he can't jump but then white men can't.
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Lambie has always played better at flyhalf. why would you want to put a game breaker at fullback where he can dictate the game at 10 and bring the backline in the game. you need a fast, eye for the gap and a good reader of the game at the back. Lambie was always found wanting at the back as his positional play is very poor
 
I've always understood it that on a 50/50 call the player of colour gets preference and I got no problem with that but 49/51 the job goes to 51 regardless of complexion.
 
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