St James massacre cadre faces murder charge

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http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/st-james-massacre-cadre-faces-murder-charge-1.680302

He was granted amnesty after being convicted for his part in the St James Church massacre in 1993, in which 11 churchgoers died and 58 were wounded.

But now Gcinikhaya Makoma is facing a string of charges, ranging from murder and robbery to possession of machineguns.

Makoma and 10 co-accused are expected to appear in the Cape Town High Court on October 11 in connection with a series of attacks in an alleged 2007 crime spree in which one man died.

Makoma had been sentenced to serve 23 years for his role in the bloodbath for the Cape Town church massacre, but had completed only five-and-a-half years when the Truth and Reconciliation Commission granted him and three fellow Azanian People’s Liberation Army cadres amnesty.

Makoma is now alleged to have taken part in crimes in Cape Town.

According to the indictment, on November 22, 2007, three armed men accosted Edward Daniels and his wife, Nancy, in Thornton as they arrived home, and demanded their car.

The men searched the couple and robbed them of their VW Jetta and other items.

Two days later, Makoma and his gang allegedly accosted Hans Maria Meijer Zu Schlochteren, who was in his Ford Ranger bakkie and had just collected an employee in Delft.

According to court papers, a gunman forced Schlochteren out of the bakkie, searched him and took his wallet.

A second man shot at the employee before the attackers fled in the bakkie.

The two vehicles were used in an attempted cash-in-transit robbery two weeks later.

The State alleges the gang drove the Jetta and the bakkie into a cash truck, forcing it to stop in Duiker Street, Parow, on December 3, 2007.

They allegedly fired at the truck with a .38 Special revolver, two 9mm Parabellum pistols, AK-47 and R-4 assault rifles and other firearms.

The driver of the cash truck, Andile Selepe, was killed. Two of his colleagues were wounded slightly.

As the gunmen fled, they allegedly fired at an approaching police vehicle.

When police recovered the two cars, they found these had false number plates.

Makoma and his gang are alleged to have hijacked a minibus later that day.

The 11 are charged with five counts of attempted murder, three of robbery with aggravating circumstances, and possession of unlicensed and prohibited firearms as well as of ammunition.

Makoma was expected to appear in the Blue Downs Magistrate’s Court today over a firearm offence and is also due to appear in an Mthatha court on allegations of giving a false name.
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Hmm... once a bloodthirsty murderer... always a bloodthirsty murderer! :mad:

They should have executed these killers the first time around.
 
How the feck did the Truth and Reconciliation Commision justify releasing people who had killed and wounded so many people?? :confused:
 
Archer said:
How the feck did the Truth and Reconciliation Commision justify releasing people who had killed and wounded so many people?? :confused:
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If you could prove it was politically motivated and made full disclosure you generally got amnesty.
 
Archer said:
How the feck did the Truth and Reconciliation Commision justify releasing people who had killed and wounded so many people?? :confused:
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They should have allowed people to apologise... that was the good part. But then the law must take it's course. on both sides. On the apartheid side and on the resistance side.

Forgiveness is not the same thing as a reprieve. If a man kills another man, he deserves to lose his own life.

All that the Truth and Reconciliation commission taught us is that it is OK to kill and murder as long as you are really sorry about it (or can at least fake it really good).

Look at Robert McBride... shining example of the best of the TRC! :mad:
 
He only killed one person after he was cleared by the TRC, and remember he is a product of the apartheid era, poverty must be addressed, have I left anything else out ?:rolleyes:
 
Did she rape him?!?

Terrible news all the same, on a whole though, the majority of those involved with uprisings have generally turned around though. Can't recall another story like this.
 
R13... said:
If you could prove it was politically motivated and made full disclosure you generally got amnesty.
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Garyvdh said:
They should have allowed people to apologise... that was the good part. But then the law must take it's course. on both sides. On the apartheid side and on the resistance side.

Forgiveness is not the same thing as a reprieve. If a man kills another man, he deserves to lose his own life.

All that the Truth and Reconciliation commission taught us is that it is OK to kill and murder as long as you are really sorry about it (or can at least fake it really good).

Look at Robert McBride... shining example of the best of the TRC! :mad:
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alf101 said:
Because they fought apartheid.
That's why Winnie also got off.

Before you ask - she raped, tortured and murdered poor Stompie because he was an informant, so that made it ok.
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Man thats crazy. True revolutionaries try to minimalise the bloodshed, which did not seem the case with these people. Crazy crazy crazy :(
 
Garyvdh said:
They should have allowed people to apologise... that was the good part.
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Ummm .... they did.

But then the law must take it's course. on both sides. On the apartheid side and on the resistance side.

Forgiveness is not the same thing as a reprieve. If a man kills another man, he deserves to lose his own life.

All that the Truth and Reconciliation commission taught us is that it is OK to kill and murder as long as you are really sorry about it (or can at least fake it really good).

Look at Robert McBride... shining example of the best of the TRC!
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The TRC did what they had to do in order to attempt some closure.

You cannot blame a committee for the weaknessses and evil deeds of humans.
 
alf101 said:
That's why Winnie also got off.

Before you ask - she raped, tortured and murdered poor Stompie because he was an informant, so that made it ok.
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I read a book about this ... beyond horrifying what went on ... it's not even human. Humans would not do things like that to each other.
 
Archer said:
Man thats crazy. True revolutionaries try to minimalise the bloodshed, which did not seem the case with these people. Crazy crazy crazy :(
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I think they tried... did you read that book extract on the bombing of Koeberg in the Sunday Times a Sunday or 2 ago? Lots of the sabotage tactics were specifically planned to minimise human casualties, now some of the other fighters felt this wasn't working because the state always respond with unimaginable brutality.
 
blunomore said:
Ummm .... they did.
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Um, I never said they didn't... in fact... I said "that was the good part"

blunomore said:
The TRC did what they had to do in order to attempt some closure.

You cannot blame a committee for the weaknessses and evil deeds of humans.
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Sure, closure is one thing... I think that was great for a lot of the victims and perpetrators.

but they must also take responsibility for the other messages and impressions that the commission gave the general public.

A human who kills another innocent human to attain some "higher goal" (as ludicrous as that sounds) must take responsibility for ALL of the consequences of that action.

But personally I believe it is NEVER right to intentionally kill another human in the pursuit of democratic goals.
 
Fudzy said:
Unfortunately I can't, hence why I said I haven't heard of any similar stories.

EDIT: Actually I can think of one, Robert McBride.
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um, no... you said "the majority of those involved with uprisings have generally turned around though" meaning that most of the other people who went to the commission have turned their lives around. I was asking what you base that assumption on?
 
R13... said:
I think they tried... did you read that book extract on the bombing of Koeberg in the Sunday Times a Sunday or 2 ago? Lots of the sabotage tactics were specifically planned to minimise human casualties, now some of the other fighters felt this wasn't working because the state always respond with unimaginable brutality.
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Fair enough, and I dont know nearly enough about pre 1994 history since I was still a youngster. But surely going on a shooting spree in a church is an avoidable thing? I'm sure there were many other freedom fighters that did not deserve their prison sentences, but these people? Methinks not. But then again hindsight is always 20/20...
 
Garyvdh said:
um, no... you said "the majority of those involved with uprisings have generally turned around though" meaning that most of the other people who went to the commission have turned their lives around. I was asking what you base that assumption on?
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The fact that there aren't stories about them being involved in violent criminal acts. You are welcome to prove me wrong, as I said before I'm basing this me not seeing many stories like this.
 
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