State capture inquiry begins

Alan

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Wasn't Mo one of Zuma's buddies? I am not sure if I should believe him. It seems that some people are singing anti-zupta tune in an effort to garner public sympathy.
This "inquiry " is mostly just a charade. . They've even had arch globalist cretin Peter Hain testifying. This is the guy who once claimed there was no corruption in the arms deal involving BAE.....

Then there's the small matter of him being cosy with the new Zimbabwean regime.
Peter Hain, a British peer, made headlines in South Africa when he campaigned against state capture. But Lord Hain does not appear to be applying the same high standards to his own commercial dealings in Zimbabwe, as an examination of his business partners reveals.

The peer himself admits that he is now working directly with senior officials “complicit” in former President Robert Mugabe’s dictatorial regime.
Hain did not respond to the specific questions posed to him by the M&G and amaBhungane, but said his new business partners have turned over a new leaf. “Some of those who were senior figures in Mugabe’s dictatorial regime, though clearly directly complicit, are part of the current transition and are promising a better economic and human rights future under better governance.”
 
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surface

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It looks like we are looking for someone who is wearing a spotless shirt to testify against zuma. Do we have any recommendations ?
 

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>>After all, she said, if all South African civil servants would be banned from continuing work after disciplinary proceedings, “we would have nobody working”.

Very true
No not true or correct. They don't work anyway. What the banning will do is prevent them from being paid not to work!
 

Geoff.D

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This "inquiry " is mostly just a charade. . They've even had arch globalist cretin Peter Hain testifying. This is the guy who once claimed there was no corruption in the arms deal involving BAE.....

Then there's the small matter of him being cosy with the new Zimbabwe regime.




He is and will always be, to many of us, just another unconvicted terrorist and South African who should have been prosecuted for treason.
 

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“Some of those who were senior figures in Mugabe’s dictatorial regime, though clearly directly complicit, are part of the current transition and are promising a better economic and human rights future under better governance.”

Yeah right, pulle the other onne, it has belles onne.
 

thechamp

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I am sure some of our apartheid oppressors continued with their lives undisturbed after 94, let's look at Mugabe’s compatriots in the same spirit, the ones who got away.
 

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Surely this 100% implicates Zuma as later he claimed in parliament and interviews that he had no relationships with the Guptas. As president he made an oath to uphold the constitution. He clearly broke that oath.

Zuma will probably stand trial when it is 2030 and he his too old to go to prison.
 

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https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/jacob-zuma-was-very-loyal-to-the-friendship-he-had-with-gupta-family-mo-shaik-tells-state-capture-inquiry-20191126

Surely this 100% implicates Zuma as later he claimed in parliament and interviews that he had no relationships with the Guptas. As president he made an oath to uphold the constitution. He clearly broke that oath.

Zuma will probably stand trial when it is 2030 and he his too old to go to prison.
Unfortunately the oath to uphold the constitution, and lying to parliament, are political matters, and he has already been booted out of office. Prosecuting the other things is a lot more complicated.
 

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Transnet could be linked to first state capture prosecution

Parliament - The first criminal prosecution in the state capture scandal is likely to relate to the financial looting of Transnet, the board of the state rail freight company said on Wednesday.

"The first test case on [the] prosecution of state capture will emanate from Transnet's side," Transnet board member Oupa Motaung told Parliament's portfolio committee on public enterprises.

Parliament - The first criminal prosecution in the state capture scandal is likely to relate to the financial looting of Transnet, the board of the state rail freight company said on Wednesday.

"The first test case on [the] prosecution of state capture will emanate from Transnet's side," Transnet board member Oupa Motaung told Parliament's portfolio committee on public enterprises.
 

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When is this going to end? It is very boring when no actual action is taken.

What is the estimated end it this joke fest?
 

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Lost in translation: Diplomatic tap-dancing stalls Gupta extradition moves

A much-vaunted extradition treaty between SA and the United Arab Emirates remains inactive some 14 months after it was signed by South Africa’s then-justice minister Michael Masutha and his counterpart, Sultan Saeed Al Badi. Why? Well, it’s a delicate matter, one also involving some unspecified issues the UAE has with the translation of the 31-page agreement.

South Africa swiftly moved to ratify an extradition treaty it had signed with the United Arab Emirates in September 2018, but there appears to be a hold-up in securing the final stamp that would pave the way for a strike against the notorious Gupta family.

The treaty is a vital instrument in South Africa’s quest to bring the Gupta brothers and their partner, Salim Essa, to South Africa to answer to alleged State Capture crimes.

But, Daily Maverick has confirmed that it is yet to be ratified by the UAE, in part, due to “translation” concerns raised by the UAE.​
 

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Lost in translation: Diplomatic tap-dancing stalls Gupta extradition moves

A much-vaunted extradition treaty between SA and the United Arab Emirates remains inactive some 14 months after it was signed by South Africa’s then-justice minister Michael Masutha and his counterpart, Sultan Saeed Al Badi. Why? Well, it’s a delicate matter, one also involving some unspecified issues the UAE has with the translation of the 31-page agreement.

South Africa swiftly moved to ratify an extradition treaty it had signed with the United Arab Emirates in September 2018, but there appears to be a hold-up in securing the final stamp that would pave the way for a strike against the notorious Gupta family.

The treaty is a vital instrument in South Africa’s quest to bring the Gupta brothers and their partner, Salim Essa, to South Africa to answer to alleged State Capture crimes.

But, Daily Maverick has confirmed that it is yet to be ratified by the UAE, in part, due to “translation” concerns raised by the UAE.​
Article is two days old. I already posted that link (somewhere).
 

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But, Daily Maverick has confirmed that it is yet to be ratified by the UAE, in part, due to “translation” concerns raised by the UAE.
I don't have much hope for the khashoggi murdering regime to be honest. But, it does look like something is happening.
 

TysonRoux

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I don't have much hope for the khashoggi murdering regime to be honest. But, it does look like something is happening.
Maybe the weapons deal with SA could be used to prompt the Saudis, and move the Guptas extradition along.
 
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