State of global climate

[rpm]

A graphic of global climate change in 2011.

 

[rpm]

All-time low for Arctic ice

A graphic showing satellite images in September of the polar ice-cap at its smallest since records began in 1979.

 

[killadoob]

The big question, are we causing it?

/sees ghoti eyeing this topic waiting for his moment to strike and spread his lies.

 

[Viva]

The big question, are we causing it?

/sees ghoti eyeing this topic waiting for his moment to strike and spread his lies.

What is the gist of Ghoti's "lies"?

 

[w1z4rd]

A graphic of global climate change in 2011.

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Thanks for the share RPM. Some people even try to pretend Global warming does not happen. They keep spamming "Antarctica gaining ice links" without even understanding what they are talking about

 

[w1z4rd]

What is the gist of Ghoti's "lies"?

That I believe the global consensus amongst scientists in AGW.

Basically this is the "lie" I am spreading:

The scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth's climate system is unequivocally warming, and it is more than 90% certain that humans are causing it through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as deforestation and burning fossil fuels.[1][2][3][4] This scientific consensus is expressed in synthesis reports, by scientific bodies of national or international standing, and by surveys of opinion among climate scientists. Individual scientists, universities, and laboratories contribute to the overall scientific opinion via their peer-reviewed publications, and the areas of collective agreement and relative certainty are summarised in these high level reports and surveys.

National and international science academies and scientific societies have assessed the current scientific opinion, in particular on recent global warming. These assessments have largely followed or endorsed the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) position of January 2001 which states:

An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system... There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities.[5]
The main conclusions of the IPCC on global warming were the following:
The global average surface temperature has risen 0.6 ± 0.2 °C since the late 19th century, and 0.17 °C per decade in the last 30 years.[6]
"There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities", in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane.[7]
If greenhouse gas emissions continue the warming will also continue, with temperatures projected to increase by 1.4 °C to 5.8 °C between 1990 and 2100. Accompanying this temperature increase will be increases in some types of extreme weather and a projected sea level rise.[8] On balance the impacts of global warming will be significantly negative, especially for larger values of warming.[9]

No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion; the last was the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, which in 2007 updated its 1999 statement rejecting the likelihood of human influence on recent climate with its current non-committal position.[10][11] Some other organizations, primarily those focusing on geology, also hold non-committal positions. There are also groups of individuals outside national or international organizations that have expressed their dissenting opinions and counterarguments in venues such as public petitions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Basically killadoob calls me a liar for agreeing with the world scientific community on this. And he thinks he is not a liar by pretending to know more than them.

So apparently all the scientists and I are lying, and killadoob knows more than the scientists therefore he is not lying. Thats basically his logic. This is the reality of killadoob. Poor child.

 

[Viva]

That I believe the global consensus amongst scientists in AGW.

Basically this is the "lie" I am spreading:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Basically killadoob calls me a liar for agreeing with the world scientific community on this. And he thinks he is not a liar by pretending to know more than them.

So apparently all the scientists and I are lying, and killadoob knows more than the scientists therefore he is not lying. Thats basically his logic. This is the reality of killadoob. Poor child.

Thanks, I was curious about which side of the debate you're on. I'm, like you, not comfortable dismissing the dominant opinion of the scientific community on this issue.

 

[w1z4rd]

Thanks, I was curious about which side of the debate you're on. I'm, like you, not comfortable dismissing the dominant opinion of the scientific community on this issue.

As with most things I am on the side of science and empirical evidence. Good to see you are a rationalist

 

[w1z4rd]

Source: http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/12-02-08/

A picture can be worth more than a thousand words.

 

[killadoob]

Thanks, I was curious about which side of the debate you're on. I'm, like you, not comfortable dismissing the dominant opinion of the scientific community on this issue.

O i don't dismiss it but i don't believe it like it's gospel. There are many outside forces that heat and cool our planet. Our core could be the reason the for heat.

Ghoti has no other belief other than it's humans.

Wait what is called now ghoti, global warming still or man made global warming? I have rumblings of regional man made global warming.

What is normal ghoti? the earth has been around for 4.5 billion years yet we know what is normal? Are you fking kidding me hahahahaha.

 

[w1z4rd]

O i don't dismiss it but i don't believe it like it's gospel. There are many outside forces that heat and cool our planet. Our core could be the reason the for heat.

Ghoti has no other belief other than it's humans.

Wait what is called now ghoti, global warming still or man made global warming? I have rumblings of regional man made global warming.

What is normal ghoti? the earth has been around for 4.5 billion years yet we know what is normal? Are you fking kidding me hahahahaha.

@Viva: as you can see, this is why no one really takes him too seriously.

 

[killadoob]

@Viva: as you can see, this is why no one really takes him too seriously.

4 billion years ghoti, you realize i said 4 billion and you said what is happening is not normal, meaning you know without a doubt it's not normal that in 4.7 billion years the weather can change rapidly. I am the crazy one hahahahah

Ghoti doesn't believe the sun gives us heat either which shows how backward he is, romney supporter no doubt . He doesn't even consider the inner core could be heating the surface of our planet due to forces outside our planet.

All he knows is the gospel al gore spits out. he has no idea about the huge hole found in our magnetic field they recently discovered that has been allowing radiation to enter our atmosphere unknown to us until now but still he refuses to budge from his religion.

 

[w1z4rd]

4 billion years ghoti, you realize i said 4 billion and you said what is happening is not normal, meaning you know without a doubt it's not normal that in 4.7 billion years the weather can change rapidly. I am the crazy one hahahahah

Ghoti doesn't believe the sun gives us heat either which shows how backward he is, romney supporter no doubt . He doesn't even consider the inner core could be heating the surface of our planet due to forces outside our planet.

All he knows is the gospel al gore spits out. he has no idea about the huge hole found in our magnetic field they recently discovered that has been allowing radiation to enter our atmosphere unknown to us until now but still he refuses to budge from his religion.

Shame, lol.

 

[Unhappy438]

@Viva: as you can see, this is why no one really takes him too seriously.

+1

 

[Viva]

@Viva: as you can see, this is why no one really takes him too seriously.

Say no more

His last two posts did his position on this issue no favour.

 

[Techne]

Cherry-picked data can feed into a person's preconceived notions of reality. However, I find that people in general are more open to the facts and the bigger picture.
Tropical cyclone data:

No link between AGW and cyclone activity.

Global temperatures from satellite data:

Other data:

Little change in global drought over the past 60 years

Ocean currents play a role in predicting extent of Arctic sea ice. Keep the Pacific decadal oscillation and the Atlantic multidecadal oscillation in mind when reading this.

When Antarctic sea ice mass was allegedly shown to be on the decrease it was due to AGW. Now that NASA finds it may be on the increase it is due to AGW. Brilliant theory isn't it .

No link between severe floods and AGW in the USA. or globally (another study).

Changes in the variability of global land precipitation... No changes in relation to temperature, contrary to model predictions.

These papers give an idea of temperatures some 1000 to 2000 years ago in relation to today...
The extra-tropical Northern Hemisphere temperature in the last two millennia: reconstructions of low-frequency variability

Variability and extremes of northern Scandinavian summer temperatures over the past two millennia

Look at all the facts.

 

[w1z4rd]

Cherry-picked data can feed into a person's preconceived notions of reality.

Yup. This I see clearly.

 

[Techne]

Yup. This I see clearly.

Great stuff. Remember, try and look at all the data without any confirmation or disconfirmation bias. It might be tough at first, but give it a go.

 

[w1z4rd]

Great stuff. Remember, try and look at all the data without any confirmation or disconfirmation bias. It might be tough at first, but give it a go.

Its okay, Ill rather let the real scientists actually qualified in the field form the consensus. They normally know more than random forumite dude.

 

[Jings]

In 6 galactic years global warming will not exist. For now we should start to panic.