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The brake fluid replacement was required during the 135 000km service. Was charged R139.81 for the brake fluid.

After the service I noted that the colour of the brake fluid in the reservoir tank was dark green in colour. Sent a photo to the dealership. Their response was that the brake fluid was changed. :mad:After deliberations I was requested to bring the car into the dealership. The technician opened the brake fluid reservoir tank and informed me it needs to be replaced. Drove the vehicle into the workshop. I had my dashcam in the vehicle. Vehicle was in the workshop for 11 minutes.

The brake fluid in the reservoir tank was now clear. Examined the brake bleed nipples. All were still covered in grit. This raised suspicions. They just siphoned the fluid from the reservoir and replaced.

I did the flush via the bleeding nipples and as expected, the fluid was green.

Also, I noted that the oil filter reflects that it was manufactured in 2023. They are normally a year old. Not sure if this was replaced with a new one or a used filter from another vehicle was wiped clean and fitted to my vehicle. When I have a gap, I am going to replace the filter and cut open the existing filter. I might see some signs of a used filter.

What car is it by the way?

I mean there's a good chance that when the brakes were done at some point, they also replaced all the fluid as it's one of those things you tend to do while you are there and so they opted to just topup instead of cycle it all.

With my previous bikes that used to be the case, even though the schedule said it they would look at it and decide whether to do it or not.

My BMW on the other hand they do it without question every other service and I'm always surprised how cheap it actually is.

Also outside of BMW never ever had anyone replace the fork oil EVER...they just do it as part of normal maintenance.
 
@airborne @Neuk_
Paid R3,650 for front discs, pads and the boot lock at goldwagen today.

Will get the brakes installed tomorrow but need to wait for after xmas to do the boot
I always replace pads myself, quick and easy job and you buy good pads, not the junk some of the garages fit.
So after a 7k oil cooler replacement last week on the Caddy, and its Januworry. The rear brakes sounded like metal on metal yesterday and I also did not change discs for very long time.
So got at Goldwagen discs and pads for R1600. And I could get it actually for around 1k if you take the cheap options.
Took me 1 and 1/2 hour to fit pads and discs on both sides. Cant believe its so easy.
Will never pay someone again to do it.
 
I always replace pads myself, quick and easy job and you buy good pads, not the junk some of the garages fit.
So after a 7k oil cooler replacement last week on the Caddy, and its Januworry. The rear brakes sounded like metal on metal yesterday and I also did not change discs for very long time.
So got at Goldwagen discs and pads for R1600. And I could get it actually for around 1k if you take the cheap options.
Took me 1 and 1/2 hour to fit pads and discs on both sides. Cant believe its so easy.
Will never pay someone again to do it.
Did you need any specialised tools todo the job?
Some vehicles need a piston wind back tools and even a diagnostics tool if it’s has an electronic hand brake.
 
Did you need any specialised tools todo the job?
Some vehicles need a piston wind back tools and even a diagnostics tool if it’s has an electronic hand brake.

You just use the brake pad to push the piston back or failing that a c-clamp.

Electronic reset is a whole different problem though but fortunately never needed that.

Spend your money on a real jack and a proper wheel spanner as well as a breaker bar though, that’s where things get really annoying if you don’t have them.
 
Did you need any specialised tools todo the job?
Some vehicles need a piston wind back tools and even a diagnostics tool if it’s has an electronic hand brake.
Well all Vw's(I think) need a piston wind back tool for the rear wheels. Not the front, front you can just push back with a screwdriver or something. But since I always had at least 1 VW in the house and change brake pad myself, I have bought one years ago. Pretty cheap.
To do the discs it is just two normal bolts and one screw.
 
I always replace pads myself, quick and easy job and you buy good pads, not the junk some of the garages fit.
So after a 7k oil cooler replacement last week on the Caddy, and its Januworry. The rear brakes sounded like metal on metal yesterday and I also did not change discs for very long time.
So got at Goldwagen discs and pads for R1600. And I could get it actually for around 1k if you take the cheap options.
Took me 1 and 1/2 hour to fit pads and discs on both sides. Cant believe its so easy.
Will never pay someone again to do it.
Bra if my wife sees me with oil/grease on my hands from fixing the car can you imagine the amount of sht I'd have to fix around the house?!








Did you know a man only becomes a person once married?
Because a wife will go around saying "A person could do this" and "a person could do that".
 
For cheaper tyres, CEAT or davanti?
The CEAT quote was R3500 whilst Bridgestone is R6800 for two
 
My brother in East London has just fitted 4 x Ceat Ecodrive 165/60 R14 tyres on his 2010 Hyundai i10 last week - it cost him R3,910 which included the alignment as well...
Mine is for 205/60R16 CEAT SECURADRIVE SUV TL 92H.

Thing is we drive dirt road and it's tough on tires so I prefer not spending on premium ones especially if they are soft.
 
Mine is for 205/60R16 CEAT SECURADRIVE SUV TL 92H.

Thing is we drive dirt road and it's tough on tires so I prefer not spending on premium ones especially if they are soft.
Tyres don't always deflate slowly when you get a puncture on dirt roads.
Is the saving worth it to risk a blowout and possible resulting accident?

Not saying a premium brand will not have a blow-out, but I would bet my lunch money that the possibility is vastly smaller.
 
Compliments of the Season to all.

When dealerships replace brake fluid, are they required to flush out all the fluid or only siphon out and replace the fluid in the brake fluid reservoir.
Just an update regarding changing of brake fluid during the 135k service.

After the service, I inspected the brake fluid reservoir and noted that the brake fluid was green in colour, indicating it had not been replaced. Sent a photo to the service adviser followed by an email. No response. Getting hold of the service adviser via phone was impossible.. Honda SA called to enquire about the service. I complained about the brake fluid issue and non-response from the service adviser.

A week later, I receive a call from the service adviser who informed me that according to their workshop, the brake fluid had been replaced. This statement was surprising, as I had already sent a WhatsApp photo clearly showing the discoloured brake fluid, which indicated otherwise. The service adviser requested that I bring the vehicle back to the dealership for further inspection.

Vehicle was taken to the dealership, inspected by the technician, and was informed that the fluid must be changed. Vehicle was taken into the workshop. Went into the workshop at 09:53 and exited the workshop at 10:04. Given the short duration of this workshop visit (11 minutes), I had serious doubts as to whether the brake fluid was completely flushed and replaced. Up unity this point, there was no apology whatsoever from the dealership.

Upon closer inspection at home, I discovered that the brake fluid bleeding nipples on all four wheels were still dry and covered with grit, indicating they had not been used. However, the fluid in the brake fluid reservoir was clear. This strongly suggests that the brake fluid was not flushed through the entire braking system.

To confirm this, I personally performed a proper brake fluid flush via the bleeding nipples. To my disappointment, the fluid extracted was green in colour. This confirms that only the fluid in the reservoir had been siphoned and replaced, while the brake lines still contained the old, degraded fluid.

It is deeply concerning that this shortcut may be routinely applied to other vehicles serviced at this dealership with the owners being unaware. Brake fluid is a critical safety component, and any misrepresentation of its replacement poses a risk to both myself and other road users.

As I lost trust in the service performed, I also replaced the oil filter. The filter fitted to my vehicle bore a manufacture date of 2023, which raises further doubts as to whether it was genuinely new or possibly taken from another vehicle and wiped clean before installation. Incidentally the GUD filter I purchased was manufactured in 2025.

Apart from wanting to replace iridium spark plugs that were not required for this service at a cost of R4400.00, I was invoiced R150.00 for a tablet that was added to the windscreen washer bottle. This is not part of the service and customers should be prompted if this is required as was done during my previous visits. The quote for the brake fluid was R95.00. However, I was invoiced R139.81. An increase of 33%. During the 90 000km service in 2023 I paid R75.00.

After lodging a complaint with the dealership, I received a call from their Service Manager who apologised for what had transpired. He admitted that, after looking at video footage, the brake fluid was not flushed, however the oil filter was replaced. They purchase Honda oil and oil filter packs in bulk of 400 to 500 at a time. Hence the filter manufactured date was 2023.

While this was disappointing, I value the fact that they took responsibility and reimbursed me with the brake fluid change.
 
Just an update regarding changing of brake fluid during the 135k service.

After the service, I inspected the brake fluid reservoir and noted that the brake fluid was green in colour, indicating it had not been replaced. Sent a photo to the service adviser followed by an email. No response. Getting hold of the service adviser via phone was impossible.. Honda SA called to enquire about the service. I complained about the brake fluid issue and non-response from the service adviser.

A week later, I receive a call from the service adviser who informed me that according to their workshop, the brake fluid had been replaced. This statement was surprising, as I had already sent a WhatsApp photo clearly showing the discoloured brake fluid, which indicated otherwise. The service adviser requested that I bring the vehicle back to the dealership for further inspection.

Vehicle was taken to the dealership, inspected by the technician, and was informed that the fluid must be changed. Vehicle was taken into the workshop. Went into the workshop at 09:53 and exited the workshop at 10:04. Given the short duration of this workshop visit (11 minutes), I had serious doubts as to whether the brake fluid was completely flushed and replaced. Up unity this point, there was no apology whatsoever from the dealership.

Upon closer inspection at home, I discovered that the brake fluid bleeding nipples on all four wheels were still dry and covered with grit, indicating they had not been used. However, the fluid in the brake fluid reservoir was clear. This strongly suggests that the brake fluid was not flushed through the entire braking system.

To confirm this, I personally performed a proper brake fluid flush via the bleeding nipples. To my disappointment, the fluid extracted was green in colour. This confirms that only the fluid in the reservoir had been siphoned and replaced, while the brake lines still contained the old, degraded fluid.

It is deeply concerning that this shortcut may be routinely applied to other vehicles serviced at this dealership with the owners being unaware. Brake fluid is a critical safety component, and any misrepresentation of its replacement poses a risk to both myself and other road users.

As I lost trust in the service performed, I also replaced the oil filter. The filter fitted to my vehicle bore a manufacture date of 2023, which raises further doubts as to whether it was genuinely new or possibly taken from another vehicle and wiped clean before installation. Incidentally the GUD filter I purchased was manufactured in 2025.

Apart from wanting to replace iridium spark plugs that were not required for this service at a cost of R4400.00, I was invoiced R150.00 for a tablet that was added to the windscreen washer bottle. This is not part of the service and customers should be prompted if this is required as was done during my previous visits. The quote for the brake fluid was R95.00. However, I was invoiced R139.81. An increase of 33%. During the 90 000km service in 2023 I paid R75.00.

After lodging a complaint with the dealership, I received a call from their Service Manager who apologised for what had transpired. He admitted that, after looking at video footage, the brake fluid was not flushed, however the oil filter was replaced. They purchase Honda oil and oil filter packs in bulk of 400 to 500 at a time. Hence the filter manufactured date was 2023.

While this was disappointing, I value the fact that they took responsibility and reimbursed me with the brake fluid change.
Which Honda dealership is it?

Brake fluid from Honda is a bit of a scam. The first time I flushed my brake fluid I got the fluid from Honda thinking it would be Honda fluid (Hondas are picky about the fluids used so I always use Honda fluids). Went to pick it up and they gave me a bottle of Castol brake fluid but charged 50% more than what it costs at Midas :laugh:

The engine oil, transmission fluid, coolant and oil filters they sell are actual Honda fluids and filters.
 
Which Honda dealership is it?

Brake fluid from Honda is a bit of a scam. The first time I flushed my brake fluid I got the fluid from Honda thinking it would be Honda fluid (Hondas are picky about the fluids used so I always use Honda fluids). Went to pick it up and they gave me a bottle of Castol brake fluid but charged 50% more than what it costs at Midas :laugh:

The engine oil, transmission fluid, coolant and oil filters they sell are actual Honda fluids and filters.
My local Honda also sells Castrol when you ask them for coolant
 

IAT Vs. OAT. Vs. HOAT Coolant: What're The Differences And Which Type Do You Need? - Jalopnik​


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Remember when nearly all coolants used to be green? Now they seem to come in every color of the rainbow. Are they all really that different? What sets them apart, and how do you know which ones to use?

The old green coolant you remember is called IAT, standing for inorganic additive technology, and it's still around. It's used today in older vehicles.

However, most modern passenger cars use OAT or HOAT coolants. All of these types of coolant have a base of ethylene glycol or propylene glycol mixed with water.

What makes them different are the additives. OAT coolants use purely organic additives, while HOAT coolants use a hybrid version of OAT and IAT.

IAT coolants are great for combating corrosion in older cars, while OAT coolants last much longer, which is good since bad things happen when you don't change your coolant on time. HOAT coolants seek a balance between the two.

Which one should you use? That's already been decided by the manufacturer of your car. So, always consult your owner's manual to determine which coolant is right for your vehicle.

Don't just go by the color, because the color of a coolant is just the result of whatever dye the manufacturer decided to put in it. And never mix one type of coolant with another, since this can cause additive drop off and allow sludge to form in your system.

Just go with the specific recommendations for your car, and you'll be okay.

 

IAT Vs. OAT. Vs. HOAT Coolant: What're The Differences And Which Type Do You Need? - Jalopnik​


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The Castrol they sell is the correct type for Hondas, you can also buy it at Midas.
 
Which Honda dealership is it?

Brake fluid from Honda is a bit of a scam. The first time I flushed my brake fluid I got the fluid from Honda thinking it would be Honda fluid (Hondas are picky about the fluids used so I always use Honda fluids). Went to pick it up and they gave me a bottle of Castol brake fluid but charged 50% more than what it costs at Midas :laugh:

The engine oil, transmission fluid, coolant and oil filters they sell are actual Honda fluids and filters.
CMH Honda Pinetown.
 
Which Honda dealership is it?

Brake fluid from Honda is a bit of a scam. The first time I flushed my brake fluid I got the fluid from Honda thinking it would be Honda fluid (Hondas are picky about the fluids used so I always use Honda fluids). Went to pick it up and they gave me a bottle of Castol brake fluid but charged 50% more than what it costs at Midas :laugh:

The engine oil, transmission fluid, coolant and oil filters they sell are actual Honda fluids and filters.
Castrol manufactures Honda fluids:

 
Its time to replace shocks on my 2013 Lexus GS - quote from dealer for all 4 shocks and labour is R26k. Bear in mind that this excludes new mounts etc.

Trying to source KYB or another aftermarket option but that is another headache in its own right. Nobody seems to stock these for these GS models
 
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