Stinky Fishy Spam from Vodacom

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More very fishy SPAM from Vodacom

Sent:
28-Feb-2007
12:00:04

Get to PnP & buy an airtime voucher & u could winR50000!sms AIRTIME & voucher PIN to 33PnP & R1.50/SMS or NO to be removed from base.
Entries close March 31.

Sender:
Vodacom
Message centre +919814047405
Am I reading this correctly (It's been written by an oaf so I've quoted verbatim!) or do we have to spend R1.50 to get removed!!
 
Thats the whole idea. They are nailing the public for more money. I think they took a big knock with MNP. They even tried to bull me out of 3 months contract fees. Luckilly they finally gave in.
 
Yep, everyone has their hand out these days ....

Vodacom are breaking a few rules with this spam
According to the WASPA site ..
5. Commercial communications

5.1. Sending of commercial communications

5.1.1. All commercial messages must contain a valid originating number and/or the name or identifier of the message originator.

5.1.2. Any message originator must have a facility to allow the recipient to remove his or herself from the message originator’s database, so as not to receive any further messages from that message originator.

5.1.3. Where feasible, persons receiving commercial messages should be able to remove themselves from the database of a message originator using no more than two words, one of which must be ‘STOP’.

5.1.4. Any mechanism for allowing a recipient to remove him or herself from a database must not cost more than one rand.
 
Who says its Vodacom

Just cause an SMS is signed Vodacom, doesn't mean it came from them.
Check out the message centre, its in India!
Post a complaint against the Wasp that owns the shortcode '33PnP' aka '33767' at www.waspa.org.za
 
Just cause an SMS is signed Vodacom, doesn't mean it came from them.
Check out the message centre, its in India!
Post a complaint against the Wasp that owns the shortcode '33PnP' aka '33767' at www.waspa.org.za
Then a denial would have been better than nothing.
So someone in India is pretending to be Vodacom advertising Pick 'n Pay.

Sounds plausible (not).:rolleyes:
 
Skeptik, you know well this message did not come from Vodacom. :rolleyes: We've had long discussions on this forum stating Vodacom's stand on this issue and you were part of that discussion.

Unfortunately you will, as always, go out of your way to try and discredit Vodacom. To try and pin someone sending SMS's (from India, it seems) on Vodacom is just weak. Rather, I suggest, you use this SMS to claim the R25000 price you so desperately wanted to do in the off-topic section. Let's us know when you get the money.

The fact that the Vodacom network was used to send this SMS does not imply Vodacom sent it. It probably was sent over the other networks as well, as it's advertising a retail chain. (I find it interesting you never complain when these message are send over MTN's network....:rolleyes: )

A few relevant points for everyone:

- Vodacom does not advertise, or give out numbers to other entities to advertise, 3rd party services. Giving out confidential information, such as your number, is against the law, btw.

- Vodacom will promote some of it's own products and services, for example MMS. An opt-out option is always included in these messages. Opt-out is not charged for.

- Vodacom will send specific information to a subscriber, for example; a thank-you MMS when you've renewed your contract. An opt-out option is always included in these messages. Opt-out is not charged for.

- On-net management of Spam is being addressed by vendors at the moment and we expect solutions to be available in the near future.

- It's easy to manage local WASP's (Wireless Application Service Providers) if they spam, but it's impossible to do so for off-shore providers. A new international body that all GSM providers will have to belong to is being put in place to ensure spam can be managed across networks. (a GSM Interpol, if you like)
 
Skeptik, you know well this message did not come from Vodacom. :rolleyes: We've had long discussions on this forum stating Vodacom's stand on this issue and you were part of that discussion.

Unfortunately you will, as always, go out of your way to try and discredit Vodacom. To try and pin someone sending SMS's (from India, it seems) on Vodacom is just weak. Rather, I suggest, you use this SMS to claim the R25000 price you so desperately wanted to do in the off-topic section. Let's us know when you get the money.

The fact that the Vodacom network was used to send this SMS does not imply Vodacom sent it. It probably was sent over the other networks as well, as it's advertising a retail chain. (I find it interesting you never complain when these message are send over MTN's network....:rolleyes: )

A few relevant points for everyone:

- Vodacom does not advertise, or give out numbers to other entities to advertise, 3rd party services. Giving out confidential information, such as your number, is against the law, btw.

- Vodacom will promote some of it's own products and services, for example MMS. An opt-out option is always included in these messages. Opt-out is not charged for.

- Vodacom will send specific information to a subscriber, for example; a thank-you MMS when you've renewed your contract. An opt-out option is always included in these messages. Opt-out is not charged for.

- On-net management of Spam is being addressed by vendors at the moment and we expect solutions to be available in the near future.

- It's easy to manage local WASP's (Wireless Application Service Providers) if they spam, but it's impossible to do so for off-shore providers. A new international body that all GSM providers will have to belong to is being put in place to ensure spam can be managed across networks. (a GSM Interpol, if you like)
I find your reply quite revealing. I won't be drawn into one of your perceived paranoid personal attacks.

I've brought up a topic of concern and I'll make no apologies for having an opinion.:(

The fact remains that I and presumably many others are getting SPAM that claims to have come from Vodacom. The 'Indian' number did not immediately get my attention because we are used to odd numbers in SMSs.

Let someone explain how or why someone in India would send some marketing about Pick 'n Pay to South Africa and claim to be from Vodacom.

Is this perhaps a workaround to the new anti-spam laws?? i.e. Go offshore and send them from there.

I for one don't know, which is why I put this out there.
 
I find your reply quite revealing. I won't be drawn into one of your perceived paranoid personal attacks.

I've brought up a topic of concern and I'll make no apologies for having an opinion.:(

The fact remains that I and presumably many others are getting SPAM that claims to have come from Vodacom. The 'Indian' number did not immediately get my attention because we are used to odd numbers in SMSs.

Let someone explain how or why someone in India would send some marketing about Pick 'n Pay to South Africa and claim to be from Vodacom.

Is this perhaps a workaround to the new anti-spam laws?? i.e. Go offshore and send them from there.

I for one don't know, which is why I put this out there.

Well then, if you don't know ask by all means. Don't make assumptions and accusations without having the facts.

We all know the old saying about assumptions being the "mother of all stuff-ups"....

I suggest you ask PnP who they are using to do their marketing campaigns. You should also ask them where they got your number. According to SA law, they must give you this info.
 
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If it smells like Vodacom, acts like Vodacom then who am I to question it ...

...and Vodacom is clearly not concerned that someone is pretending to be them ....?? Odd.
 
Skeptic vs. Vodacom is getting a little tiresome. Get tel numbers and sort it out.
 
Nedbank has something similar going, except they send MMs's with a video attachment and a charged opt-out. So not only are you being charged to not get their spam (and I tried the opt out SMS, it's broken), you pay for the data cost of downloading the stupid attachment if you don't opt out.
 
Nedbank has something similar going, except they send MMs's with a video attachment and a charged opt-out. So not only are you being charged to not get their spam (and I tried the opt out SMS, it's broken), you pay for the data cost of downloading the stupid attachment if you don't opt out.

You don't get charged for downloading MMS's.
 
Oh, My bad :p
I was under the impression MMS data attachments did cost you. At least that's not the case then :) Charged optouts are still bull IMO though-especially if you didn't explicitly request the 'service'
 
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