Stop Destroying Videogames

[Fulcrum29]

This citizen's initiative is coming to a close.

For those who are European, do take the initiative under consideration. Even where the signatures reach target, the more signatures there are, the more valid, or rather urgent, the initiative is.

European Citizens' Initiative

Give your support !

eci.ec.europa.eu

The UK petition has already reached 100k signatures, but more would be welcome.

Petition: Prohibit publishers irrevocably disabling video games they have already sold

The government should update consumer law to prohibit publishers from disabling video games (and related game assets / features) they have already sold without recourse for customers to retain or repair them. We seek this as a statutory consumer right.

petition.parliament.uk

Again, you need to take the petition under consideration, and you need to be a citizen where applicable. The signatures need to be supportive.

For those who want to know more about the consumer movement, it can be read here: https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

The above does not mean that games are 'saved' against being 'deleted', but it does open the debate. It also encourages lawmakers, publishers, and developers to take this into consideration. Stepping stones.

There are people who dislike this consumer movement, but I am not going to get into that.

The citizens here should also actively speak up against destroying video games. Sadly, we don't have democratically driven citizen initiatives and petition programs unless you are politically connected.

All in all, this is up to you to support.

 

[prod]

UK one is at 130k. Signed as well.

Also:

 

[Fulcrum29]

UK one is at 130k. Signed as well.

Also:
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Thor is an odd one. I do get his point, well some, but his outbursts were unnecessary, and he misunderstood Stop Killing Games. In my opinion, he was wrong and should move on. Getting hung up over things isn't healthy, because he is inviting the brigade that will rain toxicity down on him.

The irony is that, due to his own actions and Ross talking openly about the situation, it has catapulted the movement.

 

[prod]

Thor is an odd one. I do get his point, well some, but his outbursts were unnecessary, and he misunderstood Stop Killing Games. In my opinion, he was wrong and should move on. Getting hung up over things isn't healthy, because he is inviting the brigade that will rain toxicity down on him.

The irony is that, due to his own actions and Ross talking openly about the situation, it has catapulted the movement.

Narcissist to the max. I swear he thinks he will literally die if he admits he was wrong about something.

 

[longboy]

1st World problems.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

1st World problems.

3rd world replies.

 

[Fulcrum29]

1st World problems.

It is a human problem.

 

[warrenpridgeon]

UK one is at 130k. Signed as well.

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I used to think he was a cool bro... but the last while he has been an ultra douche...
He used to come across as based, but then more and more stuff happened where the real him started coming to the surface.

 

[Fulcrum29]

The world is working in mysterious ways. Not too long ago, everyone was told how unimportant having ownership is... Well.

Technically, you won't be able to own a 'digital' game since the property doesn't belong to you, but you should own the access, as a right, to the game. Having access to a game would mean that a game should always be reasonably accessible. Interesting times ahead.

 

[Moosedrool]

Thor is an odd one. I do get his point, well some, but his outbursts were unnecessary, and he misunderstood Stop Killing Games. In my opinion, he was wrong and should move on. Getting hung up over things isn't healthy, because he is inviting the brigade that will rain toxicity down on him.

The irony is that, due to his own actions and Ross talking openly about the situation, it has catapulted the movement.

I thought Thor is now part of a anti online game harassment campaign alongside Korg on new Asgard.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Right on.

Yet, the third world has no sway in it.

 

[PhireSide]

Narcissist to the max. I swear he thinks he will literally die if he admits he was wrong about something.

I can think of a few on here that would fit this description

 

[warrenpridgeon]

I can think of a few on here that would fit this description

I was thinking of streaming an SaaS build on twitch... as I try fiddle and fight with an AI agent... but that would probably toss me into that description too. lol. Except my dad didn't work for blizzard. lol

 

[RunningFromFat]

It is a human problem.

Like every problem

 

[prod]

I don't really see how this is exclusively a 1st world issue? Publishers revoking licenses will affect anyone with the game

 

[RunningFromFat]

I can think of a few on here that would fit this description

@TheMightyQuin

 

[warrenpridgeon]

I don't really see how this is exclusively a 1st world issue? Publishers revoking licenses will affect anyone with the game

Same vibe as "only in South Africa"... horizons need expanding because the statements are rarely used correctly/accurately.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Like every problem

Yes, and here we have a problem where consumer digital rights and digital content preservation haven't been properly ventilated. Though this movement is targeted at preserving video games, it will need to be examined on a larger scale.

I do expect corporate pushback on this one.

 

[Fulcrum29]

"First world problems" is a figure of speech. "a usually minor or trivial problem or annoyance experienced by people in relatively affluent or privileged circumstances especially as contrasted with problems of greater social significance facing people in poor and underdeveloped parts of the world."

It's merely an observation, it doesn't add anything more to the topic.

It may be your observation, but I won't consider this a minor or trivial problem. Licensing your property out to consumer use has become exploitative, no matter where you live in the world.

This issue, by and large, needs attention at the goalpost.

 

[Fulcrum29]

Yeah, but if you lose access to your entertainment, it's trivial in the bigger picture. You can go back to playing outdoors and entertaining yourself many other ways. Surely that's trivial.

All that said. Do you own a home? Try not paying the municipality to service it and you'll quickly find out who owns the land. Regardless of the title deed.

I will keep this entertainment short; I have no idea why you are so desperate to change the goalposts. This is about digital rights and digital ownership.

Moving on.