Stop Destroying Videogames

European Commission petition. Reached its 1 million signatures, currently at 1,017,565 signatures. Was glad to contribute 1 signature to that total. Those with citizenship in any of the EU countries can sign this.

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European Citizens' Initiative

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PCWARITM said:
Yeah, but if you lose access to your entertainment, it's trivial in the bigger picture. You can go back to playing outdoors and entertaining yourself many other ways. Surely that's trivial.
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What has that to do with other things.

PCWARITM said:
All that said. Do you own a home? Try not paying the municipality to service it and you'll quickly find out who owns the land. Regardless of the title deed.
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Well exactly. If you lose access you may have to repurchase. Now you can give the game to your kids and they can enjoy it. Instead of endlessly buying stuff over and over again.

More consumer rights in one sphere, could translate into more rights in other spheres.
 
PCWARITM said:
Yeah, but if you lose access to your entertainment, it's trivial in the bigger picture. You can go back to playing outdoors and entertaining yourself many other ways. Surely that's trivial.

All that said. Do you own a home? Try not paying the municipality to service it and you'll quickly find out who owns the land. Regardless of the title deed.
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You do know that people PAY for these games. Many times ALOT of MONEY.
Money doesn't grow on trees. You pay with the expectation of being able to actually use your product.
 
OutlawJoseyWales said:
You do know that people PAY for these games. Many times ALOT of MONEY.
Money doesn't grow on trees. You pay with the expectation of being able to actually use your product.
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Some people are also calling for refunds on games, the way you can refund anything really if you buy elsewhere.
 
Boycott all game publishers. Only once they go bankrupt they will wake up.

But sadly for that to happen it means gamers will have to go outside for the first time and suffer sun stroke in the middle of the winter in the UK.

Everything today is controlled by a subscription model.

My business does not make enough money, I am not allowed to work.

Having a tough month, not allowed to game.

Tight on the budget, car can only drive 60 km/h max and windows stop working.

Budget tight , TV stops working.


It's new kind of poverty and every part of your modern day living is controlled by corporate greed.
 
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RedViking said:
But sadly for that to happen it means gamers will have to go outside for the first time and suffer sun stroke in the middle of the winter in the UK.
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On topic, I can see why its needed. I can still play games I grew up with. Kids of today wont have that same luxury.
 
I’m a bit unsure what the end goal is here? Does this apply to a company who goes bankrupt or liquidate?

Keeping online games up costs money. Or am I missing something? Also EU legislation has no jurisdiction on most video game development companies anyways. Just like the non EU people signing this petition means nothing.
 
Moosedrool said:
I’m a bit unsure what the end goal is here? Does this apply to a company who goes bankrupt or liquidate?

Keeping online games up costs money. Or am I missing something? Also EU legislation has no jurisdiction on most video game development companies anyways. Just like the non EU people signing this petition means nothing.
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You don't always have to keep the game running; off-ramps like providing key info for self-hosting is also a way to go.
Loads of games kept alive by backward engineering groups. Right now those very same groups is subject to litigation if the dev feels like it, allowing or even helping would be waay better option.

 
AlphaJohn said:
You don't always have to keep the game running; off-ramps like providing key info for self-hosting is also a way to go.
Loads of games kept alive by backward engineering groups. Right now those very same groups is subject to litigation if the dev feels like it, allowing or even helping would be waay better option.

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OK let’s say Epic, id, Microsoft, nintendo, sony or whoever decides to shut down some of their gaming servers. How is EU legislation stopping them?
 
you will own nothing and be happy,
this is what the corporate overlords want, the megacorporations are deciding to get more involved in running a government than a business.

noting much the citizens can do, just like Shrinkflation, where if you notice things get smaller and you pay more,
not here in 3rd wold sh1tistan and not in the gleaming flashy 1st world
 
AlphaJohn said:
Making it legal in EU to self host and backward engineer the tech, would be a great start.
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Yes, if the codebase is no longer maintained and in active development and due to be mothballed, open-source the hosting software so that communities can spin up their own instances.

That way the company doesn't have to cry about losses due to running servers for games they deem unprofitable.
 
My_King said:
Yeah that was sarcasm.

Back in the day we also had multiplayer built in to games. Looking at my Red Alert 2 and stuff.
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same, used to LAN RA2 and 3 and Tiberium wars a Ton

nowadays they just make video games worse, maybe its come full circle for the younger generation that never had the opportunities we had,

and they are trying to normalize it, just like shrinkflation, where if you notice how much something like a Big mac has gotten smaller, while the price has gotten higher,

its with everything though,
 
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