'Stop moaning' about Telkom

So we should shut up, stop complaining about prices, bend over, apply lube and take it in the ass just because Telkom is succeeding on the stock exchange? Quite honestly I don't give a stuff how successful they are, I don't appreciate being shafted. Why should we be forced to admire them?
 
Vic de Klerk, your message is a little confusing. Are you appealing to investors to stop moaning about Telkom's shareprice, or consumers to stop moaning about Telkom's adsl price?
 
I couldnt beleive this **** when i read it.

Its alot of economic garble about share prices and zippidy doo daa's.

Nothing about price or service delivery at all. Typical telskum, i think they are trying to position themselves for fridays add.
 
Debbie2 said:
Vic de Klerk, your message is a little confusing. Are you appealing to investors to stop moaning about Telkom's shareprice, or consumers to stop moaning about Telkom's adsl price?
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"Much noise is still being made about Telkom and its successes and failures" - Vic de Klerk

Think he is talking about all of us that is complaining. If I had their shares in my portfolio from the start, I would complain about a 500% increase! :eek:
 
Debbie2 said:
Vic de Klerk, your message is a little confusing. Are you appealing to investors to stop moaning about Telkom's shareprice, or consumers to stop moaning about Telkom's adsl price?
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Just a small piece of information for all those who complain about Telkom's expensive ADSL service and for other commentators who may have forgotten: Telkom owns 50% of Vodacom. After VenFin recently sold its best asset - its 15% interest in Vodacom - Britain's massive Vodafone now holds the other 50% interest in Vodacom.
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My point is WTF does Telkom's rates have to do with their share price and who they own? Why should we as consumers shut up and admire this when we are being shafted?
 
The point of the article from what I can tell is that speculators should buy telkom stock to get their share of the south african public's hide.

Same old rubbish then.
 
Umm maybe Vic doesn't understand that a high share price has very little to do with customer service...
 
All the article is saying is that the the "Telkom" (excluding Vodacom) portion in the Telkom is undervalued. Unfortunatly this is probably true they operate in a industry with huge barriers to entry (GVT regulation) and should be valued much more given this fact as their abnormal future profits are pretty much certain.
 
http://www.fin24.co.za/articles/com...px?Nav=ns&lvl2=comp&ArticleID=1518-24_2056206

Much noise is still being made about Telkom and its successes and failures. The noise is sometimes so bad that investors don't always see the merits of the share or the opportunities it offers.
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The message is clear: stop complaining about Telkom. See it rather as a buying opportunity, even if you missed the increase from R135 to the current R150/share.


YES, let's be complacent. Lovely. We need that more than anything else.
 
Just a small piece of information for all those who complain about Telkom's expensive ADSL service and for other commentators who may have forgotten: Telkom owns 50% of Vodacom.
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So freaking what? :confused: What has one thing got to do with another? :confused:
 
The point is telkom sucks.and we will stop complaining when telkom doesn't suck anymore.
 
From an investors point of view who only look at the financial gain that he might get from the investment in the company I would certainly go for it and grab it on with both hands!

But then I think. The money is good and the rate of return is ceratinly promising but that is the only reason there is to invest in the company.

When I look at the Company itself then one can clearly see that it certainly is not a company to invest in.
  1. The CEO make promises that he cannot keep!
  2. The president of the country has been asking repeatedly over the last 18 months to cut the prices of telecommunication costs is blatantly being ignored.
  3. The service delivery of the company is way way way way way way way way way below what it should be of a company who's shares trade as much as Telkom's does and of a comparible company anywhere in the world.
  4. Lastly and most importantly - they just can't care about their customer base - the people who actually brings in the money. They just coin in on Vodacom's performance.

So why would you then really want to invest in such a company. At the end of the day, the money you give by buying a share is invested in operations that the company has got.

Now my question - why should you as an investor care about or invest in a company who doesn't care for one second about you?
 
Yup, what MielieSpoor said. As an investor you are worried about how well fianancially a company does. Since Telkom is the only fixed line operator it is always going to be making money, a lot of it, as much as is humanly possible infact.

That translates into large profits, which generally means a good dividend, and since the company is alyays going to be making money (If it stayed as a monopoly. Even with Neotel Telkom will make bucketloads) there will always be a demand for Telkom shares, driving the share price up (Supply vs Demand).

Normally when people look at potential investments they look at a number of things but since there is no competition all they need to know is if Telkom is making money. Yes, in a big way. Put it this way If you had bought 10000 Telkom shares when they listed (normal listing price is R1) then at R150 per share that R10000 would be worth R1.5 million.

Sucks yes, but sadly true. :(
 
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