Stripped Lub Nut...

Pitbull

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Morning guys,

Maybe FAZDA can help or anyone else, please :)

On my Colt Clubcab I have a stripped wheel nut. The problem is that it's not stripped on the outside of the nut but on the inside the thread seems to be gone. Now I have tried everything yesterday to get it off.

I knocked off the round edge of the nut so I can see the thread, tried to knock the lub nut out - No success (It seems to be hitting the metal that holds the wheel bearing. I went behind the wheel and tried to take of the brake casing and brake caliper. This doesn't work. It seems like the nuts can only be hit out once the brake caliper and casing is off.

I tried hitting the nut with a punch to make the nut take on whatever thread is left - nothing.

Problem now:

I need to replace the brakes, I can't get the wheel off.

HELP?!?!?!?!
 
The_Librarian said:
Photo?

So I (and others) can see what it's like.
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Damn it,

Car at home now as I was too lazy to put the brake caliper back again and it was dark.

I'll upload it later tonight when I get home. The nuts and the Lub are exactly the same as the toyota ones. Well the older models. where you have the Lub coming out of the wheel drum, you then put the wheel on the lubs and screw the nuts onto the lubs. The lubs can be punched out by hitting it head on dislodging it at the back of the wheel at a certain point.
 
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Ok, will wait for the photos.

In the meantime somebody else might have a shufty with a solution.

Not nice to happen!
 
Drill a hole thru just smaller that the thread. The use a sharp punch to remove the rest of the bolt.
This is gonna be slow and painstaking.

You do get a bolt extractor you might want to try. You also drill a hole into it and then screw the extractor into the bolt.
That gives you something with grip to remove the bolt.

Spray Q20 generously on the bolt.
 
get a helicoil guy to do it for you.

will cost you around R250 and he will be able to fix it properly (be it just removing the old nut or putting a helicoil in to replace the thread).
 
The_Librarian said:
Pitbull

Just be glad it's at your house and not somewhere in the Karoo... ;)
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hehe very true :)

Spiderz gave me an idea though.

Yesterday I tried to drill through the lub but it's insanely hard.
I think I'll drill holes into the nut of which I can put wire or something through and then try and pull it off. I just don't know, I tried allot of things yesterday and nothing worked :(
 
Sigh, was all sunny today. Now with me almost going home... massive storm brewing again.

When will I have time to fix the damn car? *I don't mind though more rain = cooler temps :)
 
Pitbull,

Just to get a clear picture here what you have is a hub with 4-5 studs sticking out which the rim fit's onto and then you have the nuts that screw onto the studs?
Something like this,
Callipers_Twin_Pot.jpg

as opposed to something like this,
Wheelbolt.jpg


When you torque the nut what is actually turning, the nut or the stud? Also I'm assuming the nuts are recessed/sunk in the rim and not protruding above the outer rim surface?
 
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An angle grinder, with a small and very thin cutting disc to cut off the nut and piece of stud - I'm just guessing, pics would really help us, help you ... LOL !!
 
MrPost said:
An angle grinder, with a small and very thin cutting disc to cut off the nut and piece of stud - I'm just guessing, pics would really help us, help you ... LOL !!
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dude the wheel is on, he wouldnt be in this mess if it was off
 
ponder said:
Pitbull,

Just to get a clear picture here what you have is a hub with 4-5 studs sticking out which the rim fit's onto and then you have the nuts that screw onto the studs?
Something like this,
Callipers_Twin_Pot.jpg




When you torque the nut what is actually turning, the nut or the stud? Also I'm assuming the nuts are recessed/sunk in the rim and not protruding above the outer rim surface?
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It's the above, but has 6 nuts.

The thread inside the nut is stripped meaning the nut is spinning and not the bolt (Lub)

@MrPost
The grinder won't work as the nut is inside the wheel unless I cut the rim in half :p
 
Okay, so I'm going to suggest something I had witnessed before on a '99 Corolla with mag wheels. That had these silver cap nuts that when tight, would fit deep into the rim ( in that case, a grinder is obviously a no no !!). The owner had a gas welding torch ( oxy-acet) and he heated the nut, without damage to the mag wheel - just heated it - and I suppose that it expanded radially, because it then unscrewed, though not very easily. There was no damage to the stud. I don't have a car/van with mag wheels, - (and I'm on prepaid, can't really google this in depth), so I have not tried this myself. Hope someone suggests something better to help you. Thanks.
 
Pitbull said:
The thread inside the nut is stripped meaning the nut is spinning and not the bolt (Lub)
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You can try this:
1. Make sure the lifted side of the car is properly supported (no, not on a jack!)
2. Get a mate to sit on his ass with his feet pushing against the undercarriage/suspension while puling hard on the wheel towards him (or the nut) with both hands.
3. While he is pulling hard you try and untorque/loosen the nut. The outward force exerted by the rim on the nut from your mate pulling might just help in it catching some thread. I've never done this on something this big but it has worked many times before on slightly smaller things.

If you can pry something in between the rim & hum and apply pressure that way you might also come right. or if you can get a hydraulic jack between the rim & chassis somehow and try to apply pressure that way.
 
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Another option is to try one of those air impact guns if you have access to one.
 
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