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Stuff this 3Gig crap..:-(
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Dean_Henstock
Well-Known Member
sss, while what you have said is a complete insult, it must be taken from where it comes from ? I suggest you remove your comment for your own saftey sake.
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newbee
Member
SSS, You probably play Counterstrike
When you play counterstrike, everyone elses mother is some type of low down person. I remember those days. My poor mother...The names she was called
When you play counterstrike, everyone elses mother is some type of low down person. I remember those days. My poor mother...The names she was called
podo
Well-Known Member
Why all this bitching... according to Telkom's usuelss usage counter, I am today (18th of the month) at 731.72MB total usage... [
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Just try to be a little bit conservative with the bandwidth, how much can you possibly download?
I have to share my connection with my sister, who is a P2P downloading machine, but she is perfectly happy to wait during the month and just use the connection for normal browsing. Then, on the last day, when the cap really has no effect, I unleash her and she can download at will.
She was a little bit unfriendly about this in the first month, but after downloading all out for the first time, she realised there really isn't that much to download.
Gee whiskers... some people just have too much downloading to do. I remember reading a report that in the trial phase, one chap managed to clock 90GB in one month. WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!!??! With that kind of excessive usage, you'll need to buy a new hard disk each month. If you can afford a new hard disk each month, you should also be able to afford DataPro's uncapped ADSL, so go for that instead. [8D]
Willie Viljoen
Web Developer
Adaptive Web Development
]Just try to be a little bit conservative with the bandwidth, how much can you possibly download?
I have to share my connection with my sister, who is a P2P downloading machine, but she is perfectly happy to wait during the month and just use the connection for normal browsing. Then, on the last day, when the cap really has no effect, I unleash her and she can download at will.
She was a little bit unfriendly about this in the first month, but after downloading all out for the first time, she realised there really isn't that much to download.
Gee whiskers... some people just have too much downloading to do. I remember reading a report that in the trial phase, one chap managed to clock 90GB in one month. WHY?!?!?!?!?!?!!??! With that kind of excessive usage, you'll need to buy a new hard disk each month. If you can afford a new hard disk each month, you should also be able to afford DataPro's uncapped ADSL, so go for that instead. [8D]
Willie Viljoen
Web Developer
Adaptive Web Development
RPM, if you get around to reading this topic I would like to propose having sss removed from the forum... Does anyone else secong this opinion. We really don't need this sort of personal attacks on people. Does anyone else second my opinion? I have already sent an email to RPM about this matter. A lot of us have worked really hard to get where we are today and this sort of childish comments should not be posted. Anyone agree?
hmmm, well maybe. Every one did kind of gang up on him for making a dumb statement, he was just being defensive. I recon let the oke stay. I am sure Dean is a mature guy and won't take it personally, just get either a moderator or sss to delete the comment. No harm no foul. I would also act defensively if i got totally hammered after making a non-thought out statement.
There is no peace without war!!!
There is no peace without war!!!
Dean_Henstock
Well-Known Member
I must agree, no need to remove sss, just his comments, and let a moderator have a chat with him.
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podo
Well-Known Member
sss,
They will only be interested in scanning your network or trying to compromise your equipment if you put out an open invitation to them. I personally see absolutely no need whatsoever to have any services open on your ADSL interface. It's for surfing, not for serving.
My internet interface is absolutely, completely air-tight firewalled off. Nothing gets in, full stop. I allow pings so that the ISP and other people can verify that I am on and I allow the bare minimum ICMP packets so that important IP error messages make it through, but that is it.
Even the most hard up script kiddies will usually give up on scanning you if they have found nothing after about half a minute. If your firewall is blasting everything to oblivion, there will be no response to any of their scanning attempts and they will think you're probably dead in the water.
I log for scans, but have seen very little that actually interests me, in fact, I normally don't even check those logs, since I don't consider scanning to be an attack. People only offend me once they start trying to connect to things or blasting me with endless packets in a true script kiddy style DDoS attack.
At the moment, Telkom's counter has me at 765MB total throughput for the month. My own count is 767MB, I can't account for the discrepancy, but I'm guessting some traffic passing through my FreeBSD box doesn't reach the PPPoE server and isn't counted.
Of the 767MB I have counted, I have tried to calculate the amount of traffic caused by scans. So far, for the month, scanning has cost me the amount of 23KB of traffic. Seriously sss, if you are so greedy that you are going to go ape **** about a few kilobytes per month, you should be using pre-paid dial-up access with the smallest time voucher.
Instead of incessantly moaning about the problem, install a proper firewall to protect you from scanning and the attacks that might follow if you are found to be a soft target. If you don't know how to do this or don't want to do it because you are lazy, like most people, hire somebody who knows how to do it for you and I can guarantee you'll have seen the last of the script kiddies.
Willie Viljoen
Web Developer
Adaptive Web Development
They will only be interested in scanning your network or trying to compromise your equipment if you put out an open invitation to them. I personally see absolutely no need whatsoever to have any services open on your ADSL interface. It's for surfing, not for serving.
My internet interface is absolutely, completely air-tight firewalled off. Nothing gets in, full stop. I allow pings so that the ISP and other people can verify that I am on and I allow the bare minimum ICMP packets so that important IP error messages make it through, but that is it.
Even the most hard up script kiddies will usually give up on scanning you if they have found nothing after about half a minute. If your firewall is blasting everything to oblivion, there will be no response to any of their scanning attempts and they will think you're probably dead in the water.
I log for scans, but have seen very little that actually interests me, in fact, I normally don't even check those logs, since I don't consider scanning to be an attack. People only offend me once they start trying to connect to things or blasting me with endless packets in a true script kiddy style DDoS attack.
At the moment, Telkom's counter has me at 765MB total throughput for the month. My own count is 767MB, I can't account for the discrepancy, but I'm guessting some traffic passing through my FreeBSD box doesn't reach the PPPoE server and isn't counted.
Of the 767MB I have counted, I have tried to calculate the amount of traffic caused by scans. So far, for the month, scanning has cost me the amount of 23KB of traffic. Seriously sss, if you are so greedy that you are going to go ape **** about a few kilobytes per month, you should be using pre-paid dial-up access with the smallest time voucher.
Instead of incessantly moaning about the problem, install a proper firewall to protect you from scanning and the attacks that might follow if you are found to be a soft target. If you don't know how to do this or don't want to do it because you are lazy, like most people, hire somebody who knows how to do it for you and I can guarantee you'll have seen the last of the script kiddies.
Willie Viljoen
Web Developer
Adaptive Web Development
Bear
New Member
sss you are definitely a puts,i don't know much but it sounds like a good idea,but saying it on a local forum telkom and people like neobyte reads,is not a good idea.
Fighting fot peace is like poking a hole in a baloon to get more air in it.
Fighting fot peace is like poking a hole in a baloon to get more air in it.
The only reason I have to have the most hardcore of firewalls and intrustion detection systems is because of the nature of the company I work for and the sensitivity of the data on the pcs. This is why we take scanning so seriously. For the record, scanning is illegal in South Africa. So is using a proxy you dont have EXPLICIT permission to use. If there is no webpage saying the proxy is in fact a public proxy you may not use it. In the last two years I have had to do total IP addresses because of DDos. When you have a true 24/7 connection at 1Mbps you have a lot of scanning of your pcs.
podo, nobody is scanning me, thats not what i was on about!, i got an email? i didnt see it? well there is no problem with saying stuff on a local forum, it gets people thinking, and they should be! i have an opinion and if you can't handle it then tough, i can get banned and all that, but hey, i can just create another logon, bang out "kkk" and rejoin the forum , it really doesnt matter! some people like this 3 gig cap, cause they can make money out of it by selling their proxy services, unfortunately the law can't protect the idiots, as much as it tries too!
GSI 16VS
GSI 16VS
SSS – your last posting on this topic provides further evidence that you really do not belong to this community – as I’ve stated before, you should rather lurk and remain silent, and try to learn something. You should be aware that there is an underlying ethic to which responsible netizens adhere, part of which is not doing things like repeat registrations under another nick – if you wish to re-join, a simple courteous request to a forum moderator will usually do the trick, with suitable retraction and apology for past infractions. Yes, the Internet can be somewhat anarchic, but it is nevertheless governed by some basic rules based on courtesy, consideration and mutual benefit. I would suggest that if these “really doesn’t matter”, as you put it, you should have a re-think about your approach, presence and future postings to this forum...
well im still here as me, lets shift focus off me and onto whats happening out there, otherwise your totally missing the point! you can sit here and argue that you dont like me all day long, but that really isn't going to help anyone now is it!
i'm the gingerbread man!
i'm the gingerbread man!
Good - let's hope you stay on the forum as you. Now, do something to improve your esteem and post relevancies where appropriate, ask questions if you really want to know something and are currently ignorant (noting at the same time that contributors to this forum need not respond at all), and remain wholly and solely within the spirit, ethic and intent of this forum...
To get back to RH's original post - it should be clear to you that we are all disadvantaged by the 3Gb cap, and are of common mind and approach regarding its implementation by Telkom. By the same token, however, it is not correct to use proxies illegally, nor are port scans for this purpose regarded as the acceptable thing to do. Bottom line - don't do it: if not for fear of being tracked and blasted (technically and legally), then at the very least out of respect to the community...
To get back to RH's original post - it should be clear to you that we are all disadvantaged by the 3Gb cap, and are of common mind and approach regarding its implementation by Telkom. By the same token, however, it is not correct to use proxies illegally, nor are port scans for this purpose regarded as the acceptable thing to do. Bottom line - don't do it: if not for fear of being tracked and blasted (technically and legally), then at the very least out of respect to the community...
Could not have said it any better mbs... The 3 gB cap sucks. We all wish we did not have to deal with it. However we are all confined by our own morals and the legal system, hence, at our current standing there is not alternative other that the "correct" usage of a proxy server.