suicide

[wrathex]

Yes, that's right, real depression actually and usually has a physical source, the brain releasing the wrong amount of serotonin into the bloodstream (usually too little).

Thereby shortcircuiting the ability of the depressed person to think rationally or to remain calm, this person is then effectively held hostage by the chemicals coursing through their systems (or lack thereof), and that is when medication is required, to try and rebalance the chemicals.

When serotonin levels remain low, the chances of the person committing suicide increases.

 

[Kim_MarketingGirl]

One could never really understand what that person is going through at that moment, so not weak but yes a little selfish

 

[2CentsWorth]

You really should change your username. You give yourself too much credit...

I don't know you and I don't really care what you think of my username. I'm sorry about your sister, but that's the way life goes. I will not change my stance in this thread though, as chatting casually about suicide on a largely anonymous internet forum is like asking for legal advice in a diesel mechanic's workshop. To start a thread like this is pointless. It can't serve as "research" because it cannot guage anyone's true feelings bar those that have gone through this with family members or friends (and most of those people won't openly discuss that here anyway). It cannot be viewed as a cultural measurement because this forum is filled largely by egotistical South Africans who have a rather violent and cynical slant on life and who for the most part are not participating on this forum in their own personas. But most importantly, it cannot save anyones life as anyone who is suicidal will not consider anything posted here in a rational manner, and they certainly shouldn't base their decision to commit suicide on the response to a silly and irrelevant question posed on the internet. The person that puts his or her life up for self-extinguishment eventually makes that decision entirely by his or herself, and that should be the ultimate factor when deciding whether that act was selfish or even weak. Although such "deciding" may well be construed as judgement. Who are we to judge?

 

[Dolby]

It's to get various sides actually - not really pointless :/

At first when I started the thread I was thinking 100% selfish and how could anyone do that etc etc - but after a few posts, I realised the other side of the coin which I never really saw before.

I'm speaking about this thread - but there have been a few others that have opened my eyes.

 

[Quest10n]

Do you view suicide as weak and / or selfish?

WEAK, SELFISH and STUPID. You are doing no one a favour. What ever the reason it is not good enough to be WEAK, SELFISH and STUPID.
What ever you are going through it is only for a moment, maybe your moment is just lasting longer than someone elses, because you are looking to someone else to help you.
You must decide what is good for you and suicide is not it.

 

[2CentsWorth]

It's to get various sides actually - not really pointless :/

At first when I started the thread I was thinking 100% selfish and how could anyone do that etc etc - but after a few posts, I realised the other side of the coin which I never really saw before.

I'm speaking about this thread - but there have been a few others that have opened my eyes.

If it's purely for self enrichment then sure. But perhaps it shall be prudent to in future just stipulate the reasons for the posting. That way cycnical bastards such as myself may refrain from posting relentless just do it posts.

 

[almostgone]

If it's purely for self enrichment then sure. But perhaps it shall be prudent to in future just stipulate the reasons for the posting. That way cycnical bastards such as myself may refrain from posting relentless just do it posts.

Why are you flapping like grannies panties about this? Nobody is forcing you to read or participate in this thread? Its been stated that this is neither personal nor the basis for future action. It's a question. Curiousity used to be a good enough reason to ask things if I remember.

Perhaps you'd take the time to read through and take note of the posts where the motivations behind this thread are, as you say, stipulated.

 

[2CentsWorth]

no worries.... I'll be gone soon enough.

 

[vatso]

For me life is about choices and I don't think that suicide is selfish--I think it's a very risky gamble that you are taking, since you do not know if the odds will fall in your favor if you pass over, to wherever you will be (or will not be) going.

If you decide to end your life here and now there is no guarantees to what you might find on the other side. What 'choices' will you have when you get there? Can you say for certain that it will be better there? I know that we all end up there one way or another--what I am saying is that one thing life teaches you is that regret comes too late.

I have been a sufferer of clinical depression for a very long time, and I have be to places where I can tell you, that you really do not have problems. It may sound harsh, but in the end you are the one that makes the choice to not hide under your bed and hope life's problems goes away.+

"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you oughtta go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." - Q from Star Trek