Surtie Inheritance Scam

Great Gatsby said:
jeesh this thread is moving along swiftly - page 217?!
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Yes. 217 pages filled with speculation, conjecture, suspicion, presumption...and, and, and... Nothing of substance. Nothing factual. Just hysterical children trying to bicker about something they have no real information of, yet are frantically trying to disprove.

One thing that has been confirmed countless times over the years is that just because you're shouting the loudest, that doesn't make you right. Especially if you don't have sufficient information at hand to justify your standpoint. Now admitting that you don't have sufficient information and still trying to prove that you're right? That's just idiotic.

I guess pointing this out makes me a scammer. So be it...
 
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BusyNobody said:
Yes. 217 pages filled with speculation, conjecture, suspicion, presumption...and, and, and... Nothing of substance. Nothing factual. Just hysterical children trying to bicker about something they have no real information of, yet are frantically trying to disprove.

One thing that has been confirmed countless times over the years is that just because you're shouting the loudest, that doesn't make you right. Especially if you don't have sufficient information at hand to justify your standpoint. Now admitting that you don't have sufficient information and still trying to prove that you're right? That's just idiotic.

I guess pointing this out makes me a scammer. So be it...
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The thing about scams is that it's incredibly hard to prove something is a scam (because the whole thing is fake). But it is also incredibly easily to prove something as being legitimate. In the investment world, if there is no proof of legitimacy it's a surefire way of knowing it is a scam.

So yes, the absence of any proof for this is a giveaway that it is a scam.
 
Speedster said:
The thing about scams is that it's incredibly hard to prove something is a scam (because the whole thing is fake). But it is also incredibly easily to prove something as being legitimate. In the investment world, if there is no proof of legitimacy it's a surefire way of knowing it is a scam.

So yes, the absence of any proof for this is a giveaway that it is a scam.
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I know i should just ignore you but, I'm now going to give you proof.
10 2 1 you going for ask for proof of the proof...
Why would anybody get over 5000 people's bank details, load it for payment. Later check the info again and check again that everybody is loaded right if they are not planning to pay those people.
Or you thing it was done just for fun.
And don't ask me for proof, its on a need to see basis.
You definitly don't need to see.
 
Francois5141 said:
I know i should just ignore you but, I'm now going to give you proof.
10 2 1 you going for ask for proof of the proof...
Why would anybody get over 5000 people's bank details, load it for payment. Later check the info again and check again that everybody is loaded right if they are not planning to pay those people.
Or you thing it was done just for fun.
And don't ask me for proof, its on a need to see basis.
You definitly don't need to see.
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Exactly as I thought. No proof.
 
Must say this whole Reasonable-guy to completely-unhinged-hyperbolic loon Arc Nobody went on is super amusing

Since no replies here indicate any of the earth-shattering evidence to be posted has been posted i'll assume he/she/it flaked out and francine isn't doing any better

Here I was looking forward to reading and eating my words
 
Francois5141 said:
I know i should just ignore you but, I'm now going to give you proof.
10 2 1 you going for ask for proof of the proof...
Why would anybody get over 5000 people's bank details, load it for payment. Later check the info again and check again that everybody is loaded right if they are not planning to pay those people.
Or you thing it was done just for fun.
And don't ask me for proof, its on a need to see basis.
You definitly don't need to see.
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I know someone that has put money into this, more than one person, wasn't this done last year October According to this person they gave they bank details...so you telling me it takes almost 7months to load poeple documents and do verification...oh please not with today's technology.
But than again I have nothing to lose or to gain in this process, but I wish all the best to the poeple who are waiting daily.
 
Francois5141 said:
I know i should just ignore you but, I'm now going to give you proof.
10 2 1 you going for ask for proof of the proof...
Why would anybody get over 5000 people's bank details, load it for payment. Later check the info again and check again that everybody is loaded right if they are not planning to pay those people.
Or you thing it was done just for fun.
And don't ask me for proof, its on a need to see basis.
You definitly don't need to see.
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Thanks - you do give evidence of something(s).
First, giving a piece of evidence is usually enough to satisfy people that everything is above board and as described.

Second, this number is small enough to be credible, because this is a reasonable number of people who could have been encouraged to donate to Mr Koorbanally from the start. These donors would be the only ones with any sort of legal claim to anything.

Third, I at least don't want any bank details - saying they have been obtained means nothing. What I do want is for anyone who has donated to check whether they have ANY legally enforceable claim to whatever money might be obtained.

Fourth, of course, there are reasons for getting bank details other than wanting to pay money into a bank account. ;)

Your first and last sentences are important. To start with the last one. Absolutely, no-one here has a need to know bank details of donors.

As to ignoring all 216 of the previous pages of this thread:
- Anyone who has a genuine, enforceable claim or friends / family of such persons, has absolutely no need to even read this thread.
- Hopefully, posters questioning and criticising supposed evidence will encourage some readers to recognise and acknowledge glaring illogicality of statements when these are pointed out. They might avoid losing (more) money and can warn anyone who asks for advice on donating.
- Readers who genuinely and desperately ask for when payments will be made or for assurance that they haven't been scammed, already suspect that they have trusted the wrong person. They are grasping at any straws to continue giving them hope and to allow them to avoid facing the fact that their friend / relative / pastor is gullible or a lying scammer. For the most part, they cannot ALLOW themselves to evaluate evidence.

- Then there are all those who are using this, and any other media to which they can get access, to get more donations.
 
blackcobra said:
I know someone that has put money into this, more than one person, wasn't this done last year October According to this person they gave they bank details...so you telling me it takes almost 7months to load poeple documents and do verification...oh please not with today's technology.
But than again I have nothing to lose or to gain in this process, but I wish all the best to the poeple who are waiting daily.
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Lets start with People. Im sure you meant people but because you so irritating i had to point it out.
Learn to read and not ad on your own Aspoestertjie story. (
details...so you telling me it takes almost 7months to load poeple documents and do verification...oh please not with today's technology.
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I said they went through a hell of a lot of trouble if the not planning to pay us...
YES US. I am also waiting, let him post the letter from the Surtie group then i will believe that he gave his money to the right people.
All i ever said was.
1. Don't give up believing.
2. If i hear something, i will post it.
3. If i find out, our money is stolen i will expose everybody.
and lastly
DON'T BE A DWIS. To all the people treating others like sh.. and if they get it back they cry like little girls.
 
PsyWulf said:
Must say this whole Reasonable-guy to completely-unhinged-hyperbolic loon Arc Nobody went on is super amusing

Since no replies here indicate any of the earth-shattering evidence to be posted has been posted i'll assume he/she/it flaked out and francine isn't doing any better

Here I was looking forward to reading and eating my words
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I am confused. I always thought he saw this as a scam, but now it looks like he is one of them? I could never be bothered to actually read his continuous long-winded posts, so maybe that's why.
 
Francois5141 said:
Lets start with People. Im sure you meant people but because you so irritating i had to point it out.
Learn to read and not ad on your own Aspoestertjie story. (
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That's rich coming from you. Maybe if you were actually literate then we all wouldn't have had to waste so much time trying to decipher your horrendous posts full of grammar and spelling mistakes.

I feel like I have to crack the god damn Enigma everytime I try to read your crap. Not that you would get the reference, of course.
 
Bill Clitnon said:
That's rich coming from you. Maybe if you were actually literate then we all wouldn't have had to waste so much time trying to decipher your horrendous posts full of grammar and spelling mistakes.

I feel like I have to crack the god damn Enigma everytime I try to read your crap. Not that you would get the reference, of course.
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SO DINT RED MY CRAP.
Have a stunning day my friend. The fact that you get back on what i write means im not doing to bad.
I will consider on hiring someone to check my spelling when i get my money.
Up to them i apologise for making it so unbearable to read my stuff.
 
Bill Clitnon said:
I am confused. I always thought he saw this as a scam, but now it looks like he is one of them? I could never be bothered to actually read his continuous long-winded posts, so maybe that's why.
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Initially it was lots of "The main case is alive and kicking but lots of people here are getting scammed"
to
"Everything is possible love and peace"
 
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