Surtie Inheritance Scam

supersunbird said:
So when is the latest date payout will occur?/So wat is die laatste datum waarop dit gaan uitbetaal?
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Johan Landsman said:
Interesting how those who are convince the Surtie Inheritance is a scam fail to present evidence for their claims. Yet same people are so arrogant to request evidence that it is not. Even authentic proof 1 - 6 of my identity on internet. While they are nicknamed. Laughable, isn't it?! The initial post by Eti 1 is suggesting it to be a scam. I then made a offer to proof to him it's not. And, in fact, I'm not the one to present evidence first, although I will. He (Eti 1) who make allegations need to prove it. Common law principle.
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My question is clear, yet you don't even attempt to answer it. Why is that? The proof is in the pudding, afterall.
 
My word did the Friday thread come early! Is this because we are having a public :P
 
Johan Landsman said:
Did you or anybody else who identified the Surtie Inheritance as a scam presents any evidence for your claims? Listed 1 - 6, really? In a real world, you want me to be so ignorant to post identity 1 - 6 on the internet. "You must be new to the internet, and the world."
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This thread is obviously riddled with bad publicity. Methinks that the Landsman poepall wants the OP's identity so that he can off him.
 
Johan Landsman said:
Dear Mr No Name Brand
I read your post with interest & realise not only your ignorance, but that you make your acquisitions purely based on perceptions. You totally & completely fail to substantiate the claims you make with authentic evidence/fact. Your perceptions & reasoning is purely based on your lack of knowledge concerning the matter or process at hand. Despite regular update public meetings & the opportunity to ask questions at those meetings you still decided to discredit people here who follow a transparent process. Why don't you identify yourself if your are convince it's a scam? Is it because in the back of your mind you still entertain the possibility maybe it's not a scam? Therefore you don't want to fully identify yourself, because you're afraid if it is not a scam you might just compromise your eventual payout? If it is a scam, why dont you demand the legally appointed board and/or legal team to refund your donation?
If it is a scam do you really think the so called scammers (board & legal team) will present forensic evidence to substantiate their claims? If it is indeed a scam do you really think high profiles such as Pravin Gordhan, Maria Ramos etc will be silent while they are implicated in the forensic reports?
If it is indeed a scam do you really think the so called scammers will used the money they've apparently scammed you with & waste it on travel & accommodation & on top of it present evidence to you of their travel & meeting with absa?
If it is really a scam do you honestly make yourself believe that a lawyer, advocates, Senior council will get themselves involved in a scam that will not only sacrifice their career, but also their families?
If it is a scam do you really believe that those people you accuse of scammers will be such idiots to (1) appoint and register a legal board of tustees? Even go further then that and appoint lawyers, advocates (Sc) to advise them & act on their mandate?
If it is a scam do you really make yourself believe that those people will spend your "hard earned" money teavelling up & down Cape Town/Joburg? What for?! Will the idea not be to pocket every cent donated?
If it is a scam do you really think those so called scammers will find themselve busy consulting with Sc on the successful reclaiming of the Surtie Inheritance & be so transparent to call for regular update meetings to keep you informed & at peace?
If it is a scam do you honestly believe they will use the pennies collected at those update meetings to spend on travel and accommodation?
The very same people you label as scammers made financial sacrifices in their commitment to the process, (sold their properties etc) compromised their families financially to honour their agreement with you and 1000's others.
Did you at any time give it a thought why the high & mighty one's, Pravin Gordhan, Maria Ramos etc, implicated in those forensic reports never made a public statement to defend their integrity? Can you extend your investigative brain to that extend? Let me give you comfort! You don't need a single brain cell to figure that out.
You consider the Surtie matter as a scam, yet a well research/investigated report has been tabled with the public prosecutor. Yet you want to run to the Hawks! Don't you think that is exposing yourself as a wise fool on a public platform?
It is obvious that you have limited knowledge/information on this matter. Neither do you appreciate the complexity, political & corporate powers who hold unto "their golden egg, wealth".
Please note I'm writing this post/reply in my personal capacity & non of the above necessarily reflect the opinion, viewpoint of any member of the Surtie Board or any legal representative.

Regards,
Johan Landsman
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Hey @Johan Landsman, what does it matter if anyone says it's a scam? You will mos get your money whether they says it isn't or is...
 
Eti1 said:
I will not identify myself to you, for obvious reasons.

If you have all this conclusive proof, why not post it here so the whole world can see the truth of your claims? If it's a legitimate business, why wouldn't you want to do that?
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So if you prefer to hide behind a nickname as a ghost & make untested allegations concerning a legitimate process, then don't be so common to request all kinds of evidence to be given to a wise fool with no identity. Be assure we want you, your chior, with the creative name Streisand, the whole world and the high and mighty ones who loaded their bank accounts with billions over decades to be presented with "conclusive proof", but this is not the platform for it. Hence my invitation to you which you will for obvious reasons not accept. "I will not identity myself to you, for obvious reasons." Obvious to make a noise. Saying whatever you want to without taking responsibility. You clearly lack the knowledge to understand the Surtie matter. Hence you refer to it as "a legitimate business." It's not a business! It's a legal, authentic claim! You indicated you want to be refunded. How do I refund a ghost?
I have made my point. My invitation to whoever is - inbox me - I will walk you to the offices of the legal team to disclose to you "conclusive proof" that will stand beyond reasonable doubt in any court of law.
Mooi & veilig!
 
Johan Landsman said:
So if you prefer to hide behind a nickname as a ghost & make untested allegations concerning a legitimate process, then don't be so common to request all kinds of evidence to be given to a wise fool with no identity. Be assure we want you, your chior, with the creative name Streisand, the whole world and the high and mighty ones who loaded their bank accounts with billions over decades to be presented with "conclusive proof", but this is not the platform for it. Hence my invitation to you which you will for obvious reasons not accept. "I will not identity myself to you, for obvious reasons." Obvious to make a noise. Saying whatever you want to without taking responsibility. You clearly lack the knowledge to understand the Surtie matter. Hence you refer to it as "a legitimate business." It's not a business! It's a legal, authentic claim! You indicated you want to be refunded. How do I refund a ghost?
I have made my point. My invitation to whoever is - inbox me - I will walk you to the offices of the legal team to disclose to you "conclusive proof" that will stand beyond reasonable doubt in any court of law.
Mooi & veilig!
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Did you escape from Weskoppies?
 
Johan Landsman said:
So if you prefer to hide behind a nickname as a ghost & make untested allegations concerning a legitimate process, then don't be so common to request all kinds of evidence to be given to a wise fool with no identity. Be assure we want you, your chior, with the creative name Streisand, the whole world and the high and mighty ones who loaded their bank accounts with billions over decades to be presented with "conclusive proof", but this is not the platform for it. Hence my invitation to you which you will for obvious reasons not accept. "I will not identity myself to you, for obvious reasons." Obvious to make a noise. Saying whatever you want to without taking responsibility. You clearly lack the knowledge to understand the Surtie matter. Hence you refer to it as "a legitimate business." It's not a business! It's a legal, authentic claim! You indicated you want to be refunded. How do I refund a ghost?
I have made my point. My invitation to whoever is - inbox me - I will walk you to the offices of the legal team to disclose to you "conclusive proof" that will stand beyond reasonable doubt in any court of law.
Mooi & veilig!
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Kom aan, hoe naby is die proses aan in die hof wees?
 
Johan Landsman said:
So if you prefer to hide behind a nickname as a ghost & make untested allegations concerning a legitimate process, then don't be so common to request all kinds of evidence to be given to a wise fool with no identity. Be assure we want you, your chior, with the creative name Streisand, the whole world and the high and mighty ones who loaded their bank accounts with billions over decades to be presented with "conclusive proof", but this is not the platform for it. Hence my invitation to you which you will for obvious reasons not accept. "I will not identity myself to you, for obvious reasons." Obvious to make a noise. Saying whatever you want to without taking responsibility. You clearly lack the knowledge to understand the Surtie matter. Hence you refer to it as "a legitimate business." It's not a business! It's a legal, authentic claim! You indicated you want to be refunded. How do I refund a ghost?
I have made my point. My invitation to whoever is - inbox me - I will walk you to the offices of the legal team to disclose to you "conclusive proof" that will stand beyond reasonable doubt in any court of law.
Mooi & veilig!
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Tik in fokken paragrawe, man !!
 
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