Suzuki S-Presso

Tata mocks Maruti S-Presso for zero-star safety rating - Team-BHP​


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Earlier this week, the Maruti Suzuki S-Presso failed the Global NCAP crash test. In response to this, Tata has released an ad taking a dig at the S-Presso.

The photo shows a broken coffee mug with coffee beans lying around. It has a text which reads "We don't break that easy" and also mentions the Tiago's 4-star Global NCAP Safety rating.

This is not the first time Tata has taken a dig at its rivals. The Tata Altroz ads targeted all its rivals, and one took a dig specifically at the new Hyundai i20.

The Maruti Suzuki S-Presso scored zero points for adult occupant safety in Global NCAP crash tests. The car was awarded 2 stars for child occupant safety. The bodyshell and footwell area of the car were rated as unstable.

Tata mocks Maruti S-Presso for zero-star safety rating | Team-BHP

Earlier this week, the Maruti Suzuki S-Presso failed the Global NCAP crash test. In response to this, Tata has released an ad taking a dig at the S-Presso. The photo shows a broken coffee mug with coffee ...
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CONSUMER WATCH | Suzuki buyer told rust on new car was 'normal' - TimesLive​

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The thrill of that new car smell quickly turned sour for André Bosman.

On November 12 he took delivery of a Suzuki S-Presso from the Centurion dealership and had paid for the vehicle in full two days earlier.

It was the GL+ version, equipped with the automated-manual transmission (AMT). According to the website of the manufacturer, the model is priced at R164,900, while the range itself kicks off at R145,900. The S-Presso carries a five-year/200,000km “promotional” warranty.

That weekend Bosman opted to apply rubberising under the wheel-arches of his vehicle: the exposure left him concerned. It was a job that necessitated removing the wheels.

What he discovered left him uneasy.

“On removal, I saw that the wheel hubs [were] rusted as well as the exhaust bracket,” he said. Bosman claims he did not bother to seek out further areas of corrosion, before taking the vehicle back to the dealership.

He took the vehicle to Suzuki Centurion on November 19. On November 20, he received correspondence from Jennefer Jackson, customer relationship manager.

An e-mail forwarded to Sowetan Motoring reads: “Surface rust and rust on [the] undercarriage is not a warrantable defect and [is] not covered by warranty.” Jackson added: “This is normal surface rust and [will] come off [in] time.”

Bosman was taken aback and countered with his concerns, expressing disdain at the dismissal of corrosion on a new vehicle as “normal.”

He cited Sections 53 and 54 of the Consumer Protection Act (CPA) and its definitions pertaining to the condition of new products.

He alleges he was told in conversation that “this is the way they come off the ship and there is nothing they can do about it”.

“Considering that the vehicle is brand new, I consider it unacceptable that any form of rust anywhere on the vehicle is [acceptable]."

"Whether it is a warranty issue or not, should in my opinion not even be the subject of discussion. ‘New’ means all parts are new and should literally look same.”
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CONSUMER WATCH | Suzuki buyer told rust on new car was 'normal'

The thrill of that new car smell quickly turned sour for André Bosman
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After reading this page it had me thinking about the Baic D20 and whether it is any better or worse than the S-Presso. Given that the Baic is old tech could it in fact be better?

Here's a pic of the base model D20 which costs about 150k new but there's a lot of sales and discounts offered
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Chun_li said:
After reading this page it had me thinking about the Baic D20 and whether it is any better or worse than the S-Presso. Given that the Baic is old tech could it in fact be better?

Here's a pic of the base model D20 which costs about 150k new but there's a lot of sales and discounts offered
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It's better, it's just the Chinese are failing miserably at running a business.
 
Chun_li said:
What makes you say that the Chinese are failing at running a business?
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The fact that they cannot even be bothered with setting up proper dealerships, who is going to buy their car at some dodgy used car dealer?

They could even club together to create something like some Chinese Automark where they house a couple of brands under one roof and offer a complete service, from financing to servicing and parts. As it is there is just too much uncertainty, no one would be comfortable enough to spend their money on their cars, no matter how good they are.
 
thechamp said:
The fact that they cannot even be bothered with setting up proper dealerships, who is going to buy their car at some dodgy used car dealer?

They could even club together to create something like some Chinese Automark where they house a couple of brands under one roof and offer a complete service, from financing to servicing and parts. As it is there is just too much uncertainty, no one would be comfortable enough to spend their money on their cars, no matter how good they are.
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I do agree to an extent. Geeky when they were here in SA as well as Changan and JMC (which still are in SA) are sold at a dealership near me which is basically a used car dealer, meanwhile Haval/GWM shares a dealer with Suzuki.
 
genetic said:
More re-badged Indian crap with a 0 star N-Cap rating being sold in SA.
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Ironic how Indian cars produced by Indian manufacturers such as Tata and Mahindra are actually scoring higher...
 
Chun_li said:
Ironic how Indian cars produced by Indian manufacturers such as Tata and Mahindra are actually scoring higher...
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The difference is that Mahindra is an Indian company, they build good cars for global markets. The other big car makers go to India when they want to bring some cheap mediocrity into South Africa and other markets they don't consider worthy.
 
Companies would save a lot of r&d and money if they used an existing vehicle but stripped it out, similar to what VW does with the Vivo and Toyota with the Quest. Not only do we get a vehicle that should have plenty of parts available since it's been around for a while but you should also get a car that was built and designed to please a global market and not just one specific developing market.
 
thechamp said:
The difference is that Mahindra is an Indian company, they build good cars for global markets. The other big car makers go to India when they want to bring some cheap mediocrity into South Africa and other markets they don't consider worthy.
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Are you insinuating that all other big car makers that have assembly plants in India build cheap mediocrity?
Like that Baleno and Starlet - just for starters.?
Like the brands that Suzuki sell here; never mind that they have established a reputation of fantastic reliability. In recent times won brand of the year awards.

Or do you rest your case where owners complain because there is rust on an exhaust manifold and brake/wheel hubs? Of course no other vehicles have this!
 
Rhein said:
Like the brands that Suzuki sell here; never mind that they have established a reputation of fantastic reliability. In recent times won brand of the year awards.
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Don't confuse the original Japanese Suzuki with the cheap Indian "rebadged" Suzuki that the S-Presso is.

Maruti Suzuki India Limited, formerly known as Maruti Udyog Limited, is an Indian automobile manufacturer headquartered in New Delhi.
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Maruti Suzuki - Wikipedia

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I'm not confusing the original Japanese Suzuki brands.
The Indian manufactured Swift, Baleno, Ignis have been sold in SA for a few years now and these models have been responsible for Suzuki's reputation for reliability.
 
10 most fuel-efficient vehicles CAR magazine tested in 2020.

At CAR, we take each vehicle we test on a standard, mixed-use fuel route of 100 km (comprising urban and motorway sections) to gather data on its "real-world" fuel consumption. Listed below are the 10 most fuel-efficient cars (measured in litres per 100 km) of the 60 vehicles we tested in 2020...

8. Audi A6 40 TDI S Tronic – 6,0 L /100 km (claimed: 4,3 L/100 km)

7. BMW 330d Steptronic – 5,9 L/100 km (claimed: 5,0 L/100 km)

6. Mercedes-Benz A200 Sedan 7G-DCT – 5,8 L/100 km (claimed: 5,2 L/100 km)

5. Hyundai Venue 1,0 TGDI Fluid DCT – 5,7 L/100 km (clamied: 6,9 L/100 km)

4. Mercedes-Benz CLA200 7G-DCT – 5,5 L/100 km (claimed: 5,7 L/100 km)

3. Nissan Micra 84 kW Turbo Tekna Plus – 5,4 L/100 km (claimed: 5,0 L/100 km)

2=. Suzuki Ignis 1,2 GLX MT – 5,3 L/100 km (claimed: 5,1 L/100 km)

2=. Hyundai Atos 1,1 Motion – 5,3 L/100 km (clamied: 5,9 L/100 km)

1=. Suzuki S-Presso 1,0 S-Edition 5MT – 4,8 L/100 km (claimed: 4,9 L/100 km)

1=. Peugeot 108 1,0 Active – 4,8 L/100 km (clamied: 4,3 L/100 km)

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10 most fuel-efficient vehicles CAR magazine tested in 2020...

Here are the 10 most fuel-efficient cars (measured in litres per 100 km) of the 60 vehicles CAR magazine tested in 2020...
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TESTED: Suzuki S-Presso has its flaws, but it’s a cheap and cheerful option​


VERDICT

As I said at the beginning of this review, the S-Presso is more cheap and cheerful than cheap and nasty. Personally I’d go second hand at this price level but if you must have that new car experience, then I would recommend the S-Presso over rivals such as the Renault Kwid. The little Suzuki is far from perfect, but it’s also not too far from being nice.

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TESTED: Suzuki S-Presso has its flaws, but it’s a cheap and cheerful option

If you must have that new car experience, the Suzuki S-Presso is a decent proposition at the price.
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