Switch off to avoid hefty electricity penalties

BTTB said:
Government sets out Inflation Targets of between 3 and 6%, but they themselves cannot even keep to their own targets. Everyone blames the cost of living, but where does the cycle begin when it come to inflation other than with the Government itself?
This years Electricity Tariff increase was more or less 42% for our area. I suspect they are looking for a similar increase for this coming year and the next?

Eskom just needs reasons to ratify it's huge tariff increases with the Regulator. Last year it was Load Shedding and new Power Stations.
This year it looks to me as if they are going to try the same approach as what was done with Water Tariffs. The more you use the more you pay. It looks like it is leading up to this?
A sliding scale of penalties on the outset, but ultimately disguised as another way of bypassing the Regulator and making their Tariff Increases look acceptable and justifiable. They wont cut you off if you use too much, you will just pay the penalties. Mark my words, Electricity in a couple of years will be charged out on a sliding scale.

I am just so sick of this. Nothing is cheap in this country any more. Government Departments are hell bent on getting their pound of flesh out of the Public's pocket. It will never end as this inflationary stance just spirals out of control and before you know it our money is worth nothing. It already is worth squat. The Rand has been debased so much and the buying power of One Rand is virtually buggerall. What can you buy with a Rand any more?

Eskom can blow it's horn to the cows come home. They claim that the Public are to blame as a result of consumption, but surely this extra consumption comes out as Revenue for them??

What about the Country as a whole. The extra electricity capacity is needed because of the expansion in the Economy seen quite clearly in our Budget Surplus the last few years. Surely then SARS has received proportionally more revenue as a result of the growth in the Economy. So why was the extra money not ploughed back into infrastructure?
Eskom/Government may be pointing a finger at the Public, but they have 4 more fingers pointing back at themselves.
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On the money. This is why Central Planning DOES NOT work.
 
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OMG fines for what, to finance there overseas first class shopping trips, pathetic:(, what about the anc governemnt buildings that leave there lights burning 24 hours a day, what about the street lights that burn 24 hours a day, what about the illegal connections that i have repeatedly reported but f all is done about that, ESKUM you and your (ANC association of national criminals) make me sick.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
BTTB said:
This year it looks to me as if they are going to try the same approach as what was done with Water Tariffs. The more you use the more you pay. It looks like it is leading up to this?
A sliding scale of penalties on the outset, but ultimately disguised as another way of bypassing the Regulator and making their Tariff Increases look acceptable and justifiable. They wont cut you off if you use too much, you will just pay the penalties. Mark my words, Electricity in a couple of years will be charged out on a sliding scale.
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This is simply a way for Manual to increase tax income without showing it in the fiscus.
 
bekdik said:
This is simply a way for Manual to increase tax income without showing it in the fiscus.
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I am not sure if that is legal?
Eskom is supposed to be a non profit organisation?:rolleyes:
 
BTTB said:
I am not sure if that is legal?
Eskom is supposed to be a non profit organisation?:rolleyes:
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Is it? Not too sure about that, in any case it's a mute point as I am sure that expenses can be increased to use up profit. R&D leaps to mind, never mind huge consulting fees to friends and family ...

Oh, and BTW, who is the sole shareholder for Eskom?
 
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Sigh. Eskom are determined to kill our economy. You have to wonder what is going to go pear shaped next in 2009?
 
If this goes through I might as well start packing as crime will increase due the increased unemployment figures caused by the mines (largest employer) shutting down. I like the idea that the country is responsible for a private company's stuff up. Even a 1st grader (maybe not a SA one, but none the less) could have predicted this given the growth projections eskom had several years prior.

And on the point of the consultants eskom uses maybe (if the consultants are any good) start to listen to them, seems to me eskom rarely pays attention to the entire system that their crappy decisions are affecting.
 
slayerza said:
If this goes through I might as well start packing as crime will increase due the increased unemployment figures caused by the mines (largest employer) shutting down. I like the idea that the country is responsible for a private company's stuff up. Even a 1st grader (maybe not a SA one, but none the less) could have predicted this given the growth projections eskom had several years prior.

And on the point of the consultants eskom uses maybe (if the consultants are any good) start to listen to them, seems to me eskom rarely pays attention to the entire system that their crappy decisions are affecting.
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I so looking forward to setting foot on Australian soil!, away from all this cr*p. Fact is, if the wrong party comes in, the current situation will just get worse, Electricity, Water... But if the right party gets in, it will take MANY years to fix the damage this government has already done!
 
If I could would blow up the pylons leading into Zim, that should save us all 20%. Hell they're getting it for free.
 
Complexes

This is bullsh*t.
Looking at it practically I see issues.

As complex's recieve one account from municipalities, the bodies corporate will face the inevitable task of implementing this.

As a body corporate trustee member, I can see issues implementing this.

I would suggest that bodies corporate, start ensuring that their individual units electricity consumption records are available going back to the beginning of 2006.

We already face similar issues with the sliding scale water usage charges in Johannesburg. (not sure if this is national).

Scenario 1.

A Individual complex unit was occupied by a single person in 2006/7. Now a familiy of four to five has moved in with a much higher electrical usage. How do you handle this.

Scenario 2.

Propoerty registered in 2006/7 but no occupied. Now occupied, etc etc etc
 
DragonLogos said:
The two Cons - Eskom and Telkom
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Yep, and every other government monopolised business. Yet with all the obvious evidence presented to us on a daily basis, people still advocate for socialist policies, as if government can SOMEHOW run a business better than a FREE-market private industry.
 
stoke said:
So, I am now asking myself : How on earth am I going to save 20% on my home electricity bill when I was already doing everything possible to save electricity in April 2005 already ?
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It's worse then that. We rent. There was one person (sometimes one extra) staying in the house before us. Now we are a family of 4. we can't put in a solar geyser, it's not our house.
 
Please guys, don't try and confuse the issue with reality...

Its not Eskom's fault that you have to bring 3 extra people into the house...

/sarcasm off

These daft ideas that spew forth from Eksdom and the guavamint are getting irritating now...
 
What about prepaid electricity users? A bit difficult to fine them as you can buy electricity for the whole year at one time...if you really wanted to?
 
Of course, this could be the normal ANC/Trade Union form of coercion - threaten the most ridiculous drastic actions, and then back down to what they really wanted in the first place and (hopefully) everybody is so relieved that they welcome the action?
 
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