Telkom braces itself

White says that consumers can expect further price cuts in the company’s ADSL services: “We will continue to give back where we can; people want a cheaper service and we will try to make it more affordable."

We are waiting!
 
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I see my name included.
Not sure how I got put on the list. I am clearly unable to attend. I live in Cape Town.
However if someone wants to read out my submission on the 15th of April, I will start typing it now.

In the interim I will email RPM if he can read out my submission and Diane from ICASA if this will be acceptable.

BTTB
 
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Ditto. Not to sure what my name is doing there... I said I will make a submission if and ONLY if there will be hearings in Cape Town...
 
Hmm.. This is what I don't like in that article..:

“The three-gigabyte cap will be clamped down on because there is a some abuse, with around 2% of customers using more than 10 gigabytes. If 10 or 20 people abuse this, it affects the whole customer base. We may increase the average offering to four gigabytes – although there are few customers who use so much bandwidth – but there will be an absolute cut-off point. It’s just a matter of where and when.
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"White says the current caps on the amount of information that can be transferred on ADSL connections monthly – between two and four gigabytes of information at the speeds purchased, after which a much slower 56K connection comes into play – will be more vigorously enforced."

Huh? My international dies after the cap - never had a 56k connection after being capped - this just another lie?
 
Hi Doekvoet

I love this kind of information...straight into my presentation :D

Regards,

RPM
 
Two issues for your presentation:

1: Internationally there is distinct niche markets for wireless connectivity. Fixed line systems form the backbone.

Telkom attempts to compare apples with pears

It is therefore an anonamoly in South Africa that fixed line is competing with wireless.

2: Some users require substantail downloads for Linux etc. If Telkom wan't to implement a "cut off" cap system, it will kill the SA participation on the International OpenSource initiative. Therefor Telkom must be forced to maintain a mirror server of the most important packages and systems (eg Redhat, SuSE, Debian etc as well as Source Forge etc) from which ADSL users can download without such traffic adding to the cap.

3: Scrap the cap for local!

4: Telkom must provide proof that the bandwidth management process is auditable. Can users trust the Telkom bit counting process?

5: Consumers should not be punished for inefficiencies of Telkom as demonstrated by the fact that the landline fault reporting system is overloaded.
 
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He said the company was planning on rolling out a one megabyte per second transmission speed service (1Mbps, or four time faster than a 256 kilobit per second service currently used by many businesses now) in June.
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256 kilobit offering, what is he talking about? :confused:
 
“The three-gigabyte cap will be clamped down on because there is a some abuse, with around 2% of customers using more than 10 gigabytes. If 10 or 20 people abuse this, it affects the whole customer base. We may increase the average offering to four gigabytes – although there are few customers who use so much bandwidth – but there will be an absolute cut-off point. It’s just a matter of where and when.
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This is so stupid if this is his attitude then theres no hope for ADSL in South Africa.
 
less for more

"hey, we give you a price cut on your ADSL line, brilliant hey.... oh, btw, we cut you off to the entire internet after you've used all your bandwidth, purchase more accounts!"

Nice
 
Vio said:
256 kilobit offering, what is he talking about? :confused:
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Sounds like Steve White-Lies is trying to target an audience of MyWireless256 customers & get them to put their money in the White-Lies pocket.

Incidentally is there actually a 1MegaBYTE per second service yet anywhere in the world, and if so how did Telkomonopoly manage to get hold of it? (I'm saying it should be 1MegaBITS per second). Can we report Steve White-Lies to ASASA for misrepresenting the speed to the press?

PS: Sounds like a competition worthy quote to me, albeit a tad dry on the humour...;)
 
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Speaking at a briefing ahead of the hearings, Steven White, Telkom’s executive for new product development, said Telkom was concerned about the perception that there was a lack of competition in the broadband space, saying there are three other players in the market: Vodacom (with its 3G data offering), Sentech, and WBS with the iBurst product: “The basis of our presentation next week will be to ask why we are being singled out when there is clearly competition in the market.”
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Steven - Telkom controls the bandwidth - don't try and fool anyone it makes you look REALLY stupid. That's why everyone else is expensive - because YOU people are ripping the arse out of prices for local bandwidth.. have you not learned a single thing from working at Telkom? Maybe you should try something else because CLEARLY you know NOTHING about the local market.
 
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Hi jc,

Just out of interest, there are infact ISP's that offer 1mB/s in parts of the world. Im not exactly sure which state in the US has recently rolled it out, but one day we too will be able to enjoy the likes of FTTC - Fibre to the Curb - which if I am not mistaken is currently shunting at 15mb/s (+-1.8mB/s).

Not to mention the fact that the different types of DSL services available allow speeds up to 43mb/s! VDSL anyone?

Celery
 
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Bandwidth is sold on the size of the stream, not the quantity of data running over the stream. This limit stuff is complete crap, and they MUST stop trying to fool us.
 
It sound sot me like the senior management at Telkom are schooled in marketing and management and perhaps they don't understand the technical side of things. I think they truly believe what they are telling us.
 
MaD said:
Steven - Telkom controls the bandwidth - don't try and fool anyone it makes you look REALLY stupid. That's why everyone else is expensive - because YOU people are ripping the arse out of prices for local bandwidth.. have you not learned a single thing from working at Telkom? Maybe you should try something else because CLEARLY you know NOTHING about the local market.
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And Sentech, which is State Owned has challenged the "Ownership" of the SAT3 Cable. If the playing fields were level they would never have challenged the status quo. They are trying to fight for their survival. Pity about all the players we have lost because they couldn't wait out anymore because of finances.

To even mention that their is coherent competition in South Africa is rediculous. Another "white lie".

And any connection below 512kb cannot be considered broadband.
You should be able to stream video with a broadband connection. Can a 192Kb customer do this? This 192Kb connection is merely a "always on" connection, nothing else.
The term "Broadband" is used very loosely in South Africa.

Stoke Quotes Below.
Bandwidth is sold on the size of the stream, not the quantity of data running over the stream. This limit stuff is complete crap, and they MUST stop trying to fool us.
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Well the fact that MyADSL exists suggests that not everyone is accepting the current propaganda from the realms of Telkom.
 
If only all 50,000+ adsl users knew about this site..... *sigh*.. we need to go on an educational campaign or something to let people know
 
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If only all 50,000+ adsl users knew about this site..... *sigh*.. we need to go on an educational campaign or something to let people know
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Maybe it's time we did just that. As soon as the ICASA hearing is over we should "sit down" and formulate a plan of action.
 
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