Telkom doing VoLTE yet?

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Hi guys. Have Telkom started offering voice over LTE yet? I am getting a Meizu M2 Note soon and it supports Telkom LTE as far as I know. At the house I should have Telkom LTE coverage (I have no 2G or 3G coverage however) so I was wondering if Telkom does voice over LTE yet, else I am guessing if someone tries to phone me and the phone is on LTE the phone will try and downgrade to 3G or 2G which does not have coverage at the hosue :(
 
Test it - lock your phone to LTE and see whether you can call. Most networks would prefer to off-load voice to 2G and rather use the 3G or 4G networks for data.

*Edit - have you tested LTE coverage at your house? Generally they deploy 2,3 and 4G on the same towers.
 
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Tacet said:
Test it - lock your phone to LTE and see whether you can call. Most networks would prefer to off-load voice to 2G and rather use the 3G or 4G networks for data.
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Perhaps, but the sooner they get people off the old 2G and some point in the future 3G and onto 4G, the sooner they can refarm that spectrum and use it for the more spectrum efficient 4G network.
 
Ockie said:
Perhaps, but the sooner they get people off the old 2G and some point in the future 3G and onto 4G, the sooner they can refarm that spectrum and use it for the more spectrum efficient 4G network.
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My dumb 2G phone stays for one week on one charge. Any 'modern' phone has to be recharged every one or two days.
 
Rickster said:
Your area has LTE but not 2/3G? How?
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Well, according to their map. I will have to test it in real life once I get my Meizu phone. Ja, it is strange, cross into the street right outside the garage door and boom. Full 2G and 3G signal. Go inside again and poof ... no signal. Even on the map our there is a just a little blank dot over our property last time I checked.. Other houses are covered. It is very strange.
 
Ockie said:
Well, according to their map. I will have to test it in real life once I get my Meizu phone. Ja, it is strange, cross into the street right outside the garage door and boom. Full 2G and 3G signal. Go inside again and poof ... no signal. Even on the map our there is a just a little blank dot over our property last time I checked.. Other houses are covered. It is very strange.
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Call ICASA. :)
 
Rickster said:
You cant go from full signal to none across the street, must be a jamming effect going on, or you live in a Faraday cage.
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Yes, it can. Reflection from two objects adding in 180degrees phase. As Telkom map shows a dead zone, they did computer simulation properly.
 
Ockie said:
Sure, but unless we have a national black out that lasts for a week or two I dont see how charging your phone every 1 or 1 days is a issue?
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Go hiking for few days, you have to carry battery pack. And you only need phone for emergency. Get yourself in hospital without charger. Go overseas, and plugs are different. Many other situations. And don't forget about this:
If you charge every day, your battery lasts only 1.5 year (500 cycles typically).
 
sajunky said:
Go hiking for few days, you have to carry battery pack. And you only need phone for emergency. Get yourself in hospital without charger. Go overseas, and plugs are different. Many other situations. And don't forget about this:
If you charge every day, your battery lasts only 1.5 year (500 cycles typically).
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Well, then that is the price we have to pay for smart phones and fast connections I suppose. The networks are only going to get busier so the transition to more spectrum efficient networks are extremely important.
 
Ockie said:
Well, then that is the price we have to pay for smart phones and fast connections I suppose. The networks are only going to get busier so the transition to more spectrum efficient networks are extremely important.
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No, is not, smartphones waste lot of bandwith. Main purpose of cellular communication is a priority, but you want to take it away and give bandwith to those who download porn movies on their handsets or play online games.

If radio resources are so scarce, then show first that you use it wise. But you waste most of resources and demand even more. Thats a problem.
 
sajunky said:
No, is not, smartphones waste lot of bandwith. Main purpose of cellular communication is a priority, but you want to take it away and give bandwith to those who download porn movies on their handsets or play online games.

If radio resources are so scarce, then show first that you use it wise. But you waste most of resources and demand even more. Thats a problem.
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Data is the future for the mobile networks. There is no getting away from it. SMS is dying a quick death and in future voice might slowly but surely also see a decline. GSM voice will most likely never vanish, but data at some point will be the main revenue generator, and to keep up with demand networks will have to switch to more efficient networks to feed the hunger for content and data on their networks. That means that the spectrum used on old and inefficient legacy networks will need to be refarmed and utilized on the new efficient networks.

No one should be dictating to paying clients what they use on their smartphones. Wether they use data to access BDSM porn or cute kitty videos is no one elses business but their own. They paid for it, they should be able to do with it what they want. It is none of the network's business. What is the network's business is keeping their network running as efficiently and fast as possible.
 
Ockie said:
Data is the future for the mobile networks. There is no getting away from it. [...] GSM voice will most likely never vanish, but data at some point will be the main revenue generator, and to keep up with demand networks will have to switch to more efficient networks to feed the hunger for content and data on their networks. That means that the spectrum used on old and inefficient legacy networks will need to be refarmed and utilized on the new efficient networks.
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Now tou talk about revenue, not a real purpose of cellular communication. As I pointed out before, legacy network is probably more efficient than a new one. Technology is old, agreed, but bandwith is used for a real purpose, not something completely wasteful. What is good for cellular operators and some users, is not neccessary wise from the economic perspective, as voice communication is a basis and is not going to be replaced by something else anytime soon.

With 3G I had no major problems, but with LTE they went to far and completely forgotten about voice communication. Subject of this thread says all. In current LTE implementation there is no provision for voice, handset must activate extra radio resources and switch to 3G to receive call. So, I say, in the current technology state there is no reason to abandon legacy, but more efficient technology. When technology improves from the voice integration, power consumption and any other usability perspective, then we can talk about. For now pressure to avandon legacy GSM is completely premature.
 
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