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Telkom Interview
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Sig_ZA
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Didn't go so bad, he had you convinced! 
Cleary from this interview the ISPs are to blame for the price increases.
So Imaginet, WebAfrica, Axxess, and friends.
WOTS UP?
Spin doctor me.
Cleary from this interview the ISPs are to blame for the price increases.
So Imaginet, WebAfrica, Axxess, and friends.
WOTS UP?
Spin doctor me.
Scooby_Doo
Honorary Master
Sig_ZA said:Didn't go so bad, he had you convinced!
Cleary from this interview the ISPs are to blame for the price increases.
So Imaginet, WebAfrica, Axxess, and friends.
WOTS UP?
Spin doctor me.
Don't be stupid, telkoms new billing system makes it more expensive, so the isps have to charge more... Before the 1 november we could get an average cost per gig transfered right down to like 1 or 2 rand cuz we had uncapped local (so u could if u wanted to transfer 200gigs) but now we only get 3 gigs thats why it seems to cost more. Telkom is saying that they have not increased bandwidth costs , they have not directly, they just stopped 30 gig accounts and capped local.
That would be the post offices snailmail and getting on a plane to Hong Kong and doing the data transfer there.
Only in South Africa with terrorists like Telkom running the country. Im sorry chum, but even if the average user only uses 1.4 gigs a month, the OECD average for adsl accounts is 30gigs, not 1 not 2 not 3, Thirty, 30 , ThreeZero.
I certainly cannot DONWLOAD LIFE as your adverts put it, on 1.4 gigs a month.
Wonders why MWeb didnt offer 1.4 gig accounts or 2 gig entry level accounts based on those figures,, silly me, so that the ex dialup users will buy more after they hit a brick wall and then its not cheaper than dialup.
allyoucaneat
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Weird. The average usage was higher just a few months ago. Wonder what happened. Are they factoring the hard caps in already? At the ISPA ADSL workshop in October 2005, 2.5GB was the number for the average that was thrown around.
Kimosabe
Senior Member
Hey i was told i have to be indifferent...i was told my job was on the line if i was a ****
Sig_ZA said:Didn't go so bad, he had you convinced!
Cleary from this interview the ISPs are to blame for the price increases.
So Imaginet, WebAfrica, Axxess, and friends.
WOTS UP?
Spin doctor me.
Clearly the ISP's is not at fault. They did it with Telkom agreement with NDA contracts. This guy talks cross wires like any TELKOM employee would do. He confirmed what I said in a post some time ago. If 10 accounts of 3 gig = 30 gig is bought 3 users use 3 gig, 7 use the 1.5 gig quoted or less then there is a minimum of 13.5 gig redundant data capacity, that would have gone to TELKOM profit, but which the isp's "resold" as an additional two or three higher cap accounts. Thus the same logic this ass used to justify how the ISP's can now resell the accounts in the last part of the interview is what they were doing in the first place. Not selling 3 gigs at an illegal 30. The only difference is TELKOM were not satisfied by losing out on this deal so they changed it so that you pay per gig. Now he claims the ISP's can still do the same? What an *******, if you pay per gig then you will pay more than before. The ISP's is not going to take the chance anymore as a bad month where everybody would exceed the cap could harm them badly.
The feeble answer about the thirty year old copper is prove of how much **** Telkom is willing to spin to justify their fraud and theft. Some areas maybe, my area has new cables and so I would presume many more. Thus to think the majority of the population is so stupid to accept this excuse is really taking the population’s mentality low. Maybe his right, that’s why they get away with nit. How many other excuses are they going to dig up to justify their scam.
Let all donate for funds to advertise these lies in frontline newspapers to ensure the public would be informed enough to not believe the utter rubbish Telkom and Ivy sell the public. A advert with **** drooling out of mouth with a roll of cheap toilet paper for wiping could be the first Anti Telkom advert
You did great, Stopped him when he wanted to take to long, very amicable and direct as well as curtious. He did not get upset and answered what you asked. Time was a factor as a longer interview would have been great, the dudette unfortunate wants a pony to ride. We stick with broadband. You were a bit nervous I could sense buy that is normal. Well doneKimosabe said:
Interesting, note he uses an average figure based on '3gig' accounts and then goes on to comment about 'Highend users', users that used over 40 gigs/pm on 3 gig accounts.allyoucaneat said:
He later mentions the 'High End user' figure as being 4% (so roughly 4000 users then in SA).
It would be interesting to see what the figures looked like for people that exceeded the 3 gig cap (% wise), and then break those user numbers down into bandwidth blocks, seeing as though Telkom is so open with these figures, in the spirit of transparency and all that jazz.
Also, what the hell is all the fuss about Telkom, if only 4 percent are doing over 40Gigs? People are just asking for bandwidth at affordable costs, stop frikkin whinning and provide the service you promised in the first place, not this strangled, twisted hose pipe that you call ADSL.
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Thanks a bunch for the interview... I think it was the best interview yet on radio regarding ADSL. Well done Kimosabe!
RichardP
Banned
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1.4Gig! of course thats average... If you had a car that can do 200Km/H and if it was programmed to explode when u exceed 100km/h - of course 80km/h will be the average.
Statistics are made for the audience..
1.4Gig! of course thats average... If you had a car that can do 200Km/H and if it was programmed to explode when u exceed 100km/h - of course 80km/h will be the average.
Statistics are made for the audience..
I fully agreed.rpm said:
Can the facts mentioned not create a great article.. I mean the story that the ISP's can now still do what they have done before, sell larger accounts, and that should be cheaper ?? Chalenge by January ? How does that calculation work. Only diffrence now the ISP will loose the money TELKOM pockets themselves.
Roman4604
Executive Member
Not quite, previously larger accounts costed the ISPs the same as smaller ones. I think what the guy was getting at is that ISPs can play the averages game ...pupa said:
If you image a graph representing an ISPs users traffic requirements, with 0Gigs on the left side and say 30Gigs on the right, it would look like a bell (lobsided to the left). That is a small number of users will want < 1Gig, most will want about 1.5Gigs and a few will want > 3Gigs up to 30Gigs.
ISPs can do 2 things ...
1. If everyone paid the same (equiv. of 3Gigs), give everyone what they want and hopefully the average cost per user will be about 2.5Gigs, meaning the 0.5Gigs for each user will represent the ISPs profit
or
2. Charge users according to their usage, so those that use little pay little, and those the use more pay more. To achieve the same profit as 1. the ISP could now reduce the average cost for the bulk of its users (e.g. less per Gig than that of the 3Gig above), as those that use little or average are not subsidising those that use a lot.
Which one is fairer? ... you decide.
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My point is that it is exactly what the isp's were doing anyway. Telkom just did not pocket the unused gigs. The isp's resold it with Telkoms agreement as the ISP bought the gigs in bulk. Now Telkom pockets the unused by charging per gig and the ISP cannot offer the same benefit the Telkom a$$ states.