Telkom plans uncapped local bandwidth

bekdik

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I think Telkom did not prepared for the bandwidth demand. Like boramk says, they had this stuff in the beginning. There were only a small number of people on ADSL back then.

And how did they get to that point? How about by not investing in infrastructure and by raping the business to take out dividends and gratuitous bonuses?
 

antowan

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This is why I insisted to ICASA to use the terminology "flatrated" local to avoid a per gig fee...

:(
 

Highflyer_GP

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I don't see what's so hard about it - "shall not be subject to a cap" means two things:

1) Local doesn't count towards the cap, therefore you have unlimited local as long as you still have international.
2)After international is capped, local remains uncapped. Local isn't free after you have reached your international cap anyway, you've already paid for your account. They're just trying to extort more from you, over and above what you've already paid.

ICASA better damn well get this rectified. How are local businesses supposed to grow ffs?
 

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"shall not be subject to a cap"

means it'll be uncapped but charged for every byte that you use. :p

It should be worded something like this:

"local shall be unlimited and free/charged at a flat rate"
 

Highflyer_GP

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The problem with saying flat rate is that their weasels will interpret it to mean a constant rate per gig, R20/GB (or whatever they choose) which they will claim that they are already offering.

ICASA should just say it as it is, instead of trying to formalise the wording when they obviously can't. Local shall not count towards the cap, no additional charge shall be levied on local bandwidth. EOS.
 

Jonny Two Shoes

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The crux of the matter is Telkom said they don't understand the meaning of the word "cap" right, at least I read that somewhere in this thread. It is not defined in the regulations or something silly.

My interpretation of cap is this:

Local shall not be subject to the cap. OK so what is a cap, AFAIK it is the threshold limit or "ceiling" of the amount of Data we are allocated. We pay more moola to be allocated more data and to extend this threshold. <--- This is a fact and can be proven because it is simply as such and requires no definition, whether I like it or not I really and honestly do have to pay more money for more data allocation, promise :) :rolleyes: this cant be disputed even by the pricks at telkom.

So if local does not count towards this it means that there is no limit or threshold of data we are allocated locally. The keyword being unlimited. I believe I can argue that on Telkom's terms I am being limited according to the amount of money I have in my bank account. So what now? Am I right or wrong.
 
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Jonny Two Shoes

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Oh and I am no legal beagel but seeing as Telkom were arguing claims made against them it is their responsibilty to come up with the info to disprove it, not the other way around :/ It just seems to me from the very little I have read here that they have turned it the other way around and you guys have been running your own @rses off trying to prove things :( I could be wrong though.
 

bekdik

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I don't see what's so hard about it - "shall not be subject to a cap" means two things:

1) Local doesn't count towards the cap, therefore you have unlimited local as long as you still have international.
2)After international is capped, local remains uncapped. Local isn't free after you have reached your international cap anyway, you've already paid for your account. They're just trying to extort more from you, over and above what you've already paid.

ICASA better damn well get this rectified. How are local businesses supposed to grow ffs?

The most accurate post so far.
 

Chunkyfeather

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And by the way, if they remove "relaxed capping" from TelkomInternet, there goes my only reason for staying with them. They're not the cheapest ISP out there offering 2GB ADSL accounts, ya know.

That why i'm with them also. I dare them, I know alot of people who also use them just for the relaxed capping policy. LOL....they think by changing it they will keep these existing customers, lets see them do it and see how fast they switch it back! (or they could just lose us, then increase the cost per MBm citing inflation as the reason for the increase) LOL..

F - U - C - K I hate telkom...they are at #1 on my 10 worst things that South Africa has to offer....sigh!
 

milomak

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tbf when i saw the ADSL regulations were flimsy couple of pages it never raised much hope on my side
 
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