Telkom upgrade 2Mbps to 4Mbps

That is a valid point I forgot. So we are back to square one
If the current exchanges and backhaul is congested and ISPs keep running out of IPC capacity like at this stage already, imagine what's going to happen when these floodgates are opened?
 
If the current exchanges and backhaul is congested and ISPs keep running out of IPC capacity like at this stage already, imagine what's going to happen when these floodgates are opened?

So Mickey, why would Telkom even consider this if there are so many cases of exchange congestion and running out of IPC capacity? Don't they see all the problems?
 
So Mickey, why would Telkom even consider this if there are so many cases of exchange congestion and running out of IPC capacity? Don't they see all the problems?

It looks good on their report so more monies for them
 
So Mickey, why would Telkom even consider this if there are so many cases of exchange congestion and running out of IPC capacity? Don't they see all the problems?
a. To simplify billing
b. To reduce the number of ADSL products (network, not ISP side):
1. Up to 4
2. Up to 10
3. Up to 20
<then VDSL 20 and 40>
<then fibre 100>
c. Marketing
d. Many exchanges will be able to handle full 4Mbps... just not in the more densely populated areas!
e. Remember that Telkom Wholesale will not run out of IPC. The ISPs will and who do they order it from? Telkom Wholesale!!! So TW stand to benefit financially due to the increased traffic volumes flowing through their network.
 
If the current exchanges and backhaul is congested and ISPs keep running out of IPC capacity like at this stage already, imagine what's going to happen when these floodgates are opened?

1 ISP running out of IPC now means all ISPs will. :erm:

Afrihost just can't plan.
 
TI as well.

So you're saying that IPC won't be a problem if TW ups all the speeds tonight?

You seem to forget that consumers will then need to buy more cap or upgrade the speeds of their uncapped accounts.

A line speed upgrade =/ account speed upgrade.
 
You seem to forget that consumers will then need to buy more cap or upgrade the speeds of their uncapped accounts.

A line speed upgrade =/ account speed upgrade.
I'm well aware of that... what has happened each time Telkom upped the line speeds?
1. ISPs brought out cheap 'n nasty higher speed uncapped accounts.
2. Sheeple signed up for them in droves.
3. Network quality took a dive.
 
If the current exchanges and backhaul is congested and ISPs keep running out of IPC capacity like at this stage already, imagine what's going to happen when these floodgates are opened?

I know... say it was slow because of exchange congestion or perhaps the other card... ios one...
 
I'm well aware of that... what has happened each time Telkom upped the line speeds?
1. ISPs brought out cheap 'n nasty higher speed uncapped accounts.
2. Sheeple signed up for them in droves.
3. Network quality took a dive.

Correct.

So just don't buy those accounts :)

Plenty of us here are on business accounts for a reason.
 
I'm well aware of that... what has happened each time Telkom upped the line speeds?
1. ISPs brought out cheap 'n nasty higher speed uncapped accounts.
2. Sheeple signed up for them in droves.
3. Network quality took a dive.

I suspect this time around they"ll drop the price of IPC. It's long overdue at this point.
 
I suspect this time around they"ll drop the price of IPC. It's long overdue at this point.
That is a probability due to the possible scale of the additional revenue to be generated from additional traffic. They have no regulatory obligation to reduce IPC cost... which they's done earlier this year. (twice?)
 
That is a probability due to the possible scale of the additional revenue to be generated from additional traffic. They have no regulatory obligation to reduce IPC cost... which they's done earlier this year. (twice?)

Well the newer portion of their network will continue to be underutilized at current IPC pricing. The older network is the real reason data prices aren't dropping quite as fast as we would like. The moment the wider network can handle more traffic I think they will give more substantial free IPC speed increases to ISPs( they upgraded ISPs for free awhile back). I don't suspect many ISPs will opt to downgrade simply because consumers and the wider market are pushing for more bandwidth given the continued uptake of streaming and the like. Telkom have clearly shifted from price drops to free upgrades for the same money. They just need to get into the habbit of doing the same for ISPs.
 
Well the newer portion of their network will continue to be underutilized at current IPC pricing. The older network is the real reason data prices aren't dropping quite fast as we would like. The moment the wider network can handle more traffic I think they will give more substantial free IPC speed increases to ISPs. I don't suspect many ISPs will opt to downgrade simply because consumers and the wider market are pushing for more bandwidth given the continued uptake of streaming and the like. Telkom have clearly shifted from price drops to free upgrades for the same money. They just need to get into the habbit of doing the same for ISPs.
As long as the ISPs pass on the IPC price drops.... I don't think any of them did so earlier this year.
 
As long as the ISPs pass on the IPC price drops.... I don't think any of them did so earlier this year.

That's because many of them were being pressured by afrihost to offer bandwidth at or below cost. Prices simply dropped too fast and they needed the extra bandwidth to restore their margins to reasonable levels. Afrihost was burning money in an effort to gain market share. The next round of IPC price drop should get to the consumer.
 
That's because many of them were being pressured by afrihost to offer bandwidth at or below cost. Prices simply dropped too fast and they needed the extra bandwidth to restore their margins to reasonable levels. Afrihost was burning money in an effort to gain market share.
LOL - they spend their "marketing budget" ...
 
LOL - they spend their "marketing budget" ...

Well the loss leader strategy worked.

Burn through 10's of millions of "marketing budget" by selling below cost, gain substantial market share, get sold to MTN for 1 billion, keep customers and generate moola by slowing down future price drops relative to future wholesale cost reductions.

Glad they rolled the dice, because it made uncapped broadband affordable for the rest of us.
 
As long as the ISPs pass on the IPC price drops.... I don't think any of them did so earlier this year.

You're hilarious.

First you say you want quality bandwidth, then you say ISPs must pass on savings.

Which is it?
 
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