Texting while driving, this has to stop

I realized your type since you re-enrolled your membership, does that make us even now?

I have absolutely no idea as I was not made aware of the rules of the little game you are playing. If you feel we are now even then well done. Hey, you know what, you can claim to be the winner if you want, after all I have no idea what the rules are.
 
You are living in your own little world. Posting personal closeups without subject's permission is the quickest way to work yourself out of your house, car and whatever belongings you may have scraped together over the years!

Are you sucking this out of your thumb? She appears to be in public in the photo. My understanding is that anyone can take a photo of another in public. If you know of a law that states otherwise could you please share it.

EDIT: Some quick research of mine.

General info:

The consensus on Commons (subject to any local law to the contrary) is that the subject's consent is not usually needed for a straightforward photograph of an identifiable individual taken in a public place, but is usually needed for such a photograph taken in a private place.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people

Specific SA reference:

Privacy law allows for photographer to take pictures in any public space. You have the right to take photos of anyone or anything if it can be seen from a public area. This includes parks, city streets and sporting events or concerts. This also allows for any private property or buildings to be shot from within the public domain. Any person and member of the public is basically wavering their right to anonymity or privacy by appearing in these areas and are therefore fair subject matter for images. There are bylaws that can result in exceptions to the standard rules but these generally are in place to prevent an area from being used as shooting locations for commercial purposes without prior consent. Member of the public only have rights when they have secluded themselves to a place where privacy is a reasonable assumption. (Changing rooms, restrooms, medical facilities, or inside a private residence)
http://www.digitalphotographycourses.co.za/the-law-as-it-pertains-to-photographers-in-south-africa/


Without this law I could sue the photographer that takes a photo of the crowd at a rugby match, or concert. Or that photo that was published of me and my son at the Springbok world cup victory parade.
 
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You are living in your own little world. Posting personal closeups without subject's permission is the quickest way to work yourself out of your house, car and whatever belongings you may have scraped together over the years! However, this is not why I am posting. You said the vehicle was moving at over 60kmh? If yes then there is something very wrong with the pic ! As the saying goes: liar, liar pants on fire :D I am a bit surprised no one notices the discrepancy.

Was he stalking her in her own home? If your argument had any merit, then the paparazzi would be broke.
 
Was he stalking her in her own home? If your argument had any merit, then the paparazzi would be broke.

They are getting sued regularly :D It is not about taking the picture in a public place. It is about the intention for what the picture will be used. And for that you can sue someone. It is a subtle difference but it is a difference nevertheless. How would you like me taking a pic of you to have it distributed to gang who will murder you a day later. Or how about selling your pic to a advertising company and seeing yourself the next day on every street corner. Or how about someone making money out of your pic (this is where the suing of the paparazzi comes in). You see, there are exceptions to the rule which only a court can decide. Are you willing to take the risk? But that's not why I posted. Read the second part of my post and see if you have what it takes to notice the discrepancy.
 
Spunky, instead of trolling back-channel where no-one can see your bullshit shenanigans, man up and air what you have to say out here. And have the courtesy to answer what has been directly asked of you, if you please.
 
OP - 1. did you use a camera or cell to take pic? If cell - what do you have
2. did you only take one pic - if no , please post more
 
You said the vehicle was moving at over 60kmh? If yes then there is something very wrong with the pic ! As the saying goes: liar, liar pants on fire :D I am a bit surprised no one notices the discrepancy.
Just for you:

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Which, if we calculate (1/1157.4)*60 we arrive at 0.052 sec the shutter was open, yes? Which is a short enough time frame for something like a rotating wheel to appear motionless?
 
For anyone who is condoning the action of the woman in the photo or using your cellphone while driving in general, consider this:
1) In 2008, an unlicensed driver crashed into my car, causing R30 000 damage. She wasn't insured, we never received our excess back.
2) In 2011, a woman on her cellphone crashed into the back of my brother's car, pushing him into the back of a Fortuner in stationary traffic. She was driving a rental car, about R40 000 damage to my brother's car, once again we lost our excess.

R70 000 damage due to people not obeying the law and keeping their cellphones stowed away while in motion. But it's all good, as long as you don't get caught? BS.
 
30k to my car too. Also looking at a cellphone. But he was a good guy and admitted liability, I got my excess back.
 
And it's when I see this kind of thing that I once again must reiterate that speeding isn't the cause of our problems.

Someone paying 100% attention while doing a little bit more than the speed limit is infinitely safer than someone drinking/eating/texting/talking while driving.

Add lack of driver education when things do go wrong and unroadworthy cars to the mixture and speeding really isn't the thing we should be concerned about.

My phone is a GPS while I'm driving, nothing else. It gets put on silent and ignored until I get where I need to be.

Even my boss knows that I will not answer our standby phone while driving.
 
Already answered, nominal speed for the traffic on that section of road: 60-80 kph. Unsure exact number as I wasn't the driver at the time.

Sorry I did not see the reply.

I text/read news24/etc etc while waiting at a red light or when traffic is going less than 10km/h.
 
Just for you:

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Which, if we calculate (1/1157.4)*60 we arrive at 0.052 sec the shutter was open, yes? Which is a short enough time frame for something like a rotating wheel to appear motionless?

Firstly, I think it's actually 0.000864 seconds that the shutter was open. Not sure why you multiplied by 60?

If we assume a car with 185/70R14 tyres travelling at 60km/h, the wheel will rotate 0.015 revolutions in 0.864 milliseconds.

The edge of the wheel rim will travel just over 8mm in 0.864 milliseconds, and a point midway along the spokes (seven inches from the centre of the rim) will rotate a bit more than 4mm, so I reckon you'd see blurring at that speed. The spokes on those wheels are probably 20mm, and near the edge will have move 40% of that thickness in the time the shutter was open.

Therefore I conlude the following:-
Either the shutter speed was a lot faster than 0.8 milliseconds or the car wasn't going 60km/h when the pic was taken.
Even so, while driving a branded car, she was stupid to be caught doing it, and must not whine about facing the consequences.
All her defenders on here have missed the point - if you don't want to face the consequences, don't do it. Whether I do it or you do it or the judge in court does it is totally irrelevant, she did it and she got caught - it's still an offense even if the car is stopped at a robot.
 
There's enough blurring on those spokes to account for 4mm of motion IMHO.
 
There's enough blurring on those spokes to account for 4mm of motion IMHO.

Could be.

I suppose to be 100% sure we'd need to take a few more pics at different rotation speeds and shutter speeds and compare the results.
 
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