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well, eventually their web chat decided to work, and i got a person to phone me, so now they will send the cert out.
just some info: old admin had left, so contacts etc were all in his name, emails etv, voicemail to his mobile etc etc etc. our purchasing dept, renewed the cert but thawte didnt issue because they were trying to get hold of old admin...that is what needed sorting.
i was trying to prevent the Uk--> SA phone call that I would have to make. I've also decided to drop the attitude..it is too nice a day to get upset