The Anni Dewani Murder Case

VernD said:
I don't think that the crux is that he drew money; SAPS is going to be more interested in what he did with that money - please give them credit where it's due since they did a splendid job so far.
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If you read my posts in general, you will note that I am often sympathetic to the SAPS and their burden.

Furthremore, I am discussing the legal case here - not so much the SAPS investigation :)
 
I wonder if there is a third person involved a lover who pushed Shrien to hire someone.
 
Clare Montgomery QC, representing Dewani, said her client was accused by a group of self-confessed robbers and murderers desperate to escape a life sentence.

She branded the case against him as "flimsy" and suggested it was cooked up to defend the reputation of South Africa as a tourist destination.
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If there is proof in the form of cellphone records, it may not be so flimsy.

Montgomery said the murder would "seriously damage the reputation of South Africa if it were merely the work of a local gang" and a story was put together to "put blame on someone else".

She said: "It is clear that what has happened has been devastating, a nightmare for him to lose his wife and now to be subject of these allegations.

"But he is personally willing to deal with these allegations and in my submission he is reasonably confident they come from men with nothing to lose and everything to gain"
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Why does he say he is "reasonably confident"? If he was not involved, he ought to be 100% confident that the real criminals have "nothing to lose and everything to gain".
 
I'm more concerned that Clare Montgomery QC, as a person with legal standing and knowledge, could utter such tripe; can she even prove what she is saying?

Thinking back to the recent World Cup bid that they lost, I have come to the conclusion that there must be some kind of demented group-think amongst the Britons since they tend to utter the most ludicrous of statements, without being able to back them up.
 
Bungalow Bill

blunomore said:
If you read my posts in general, you will note that I am often sympathetic to the SAPS and their burden.
Furthremore, I am discussing the legal case here - not so much the SAPS investigation :)
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You writing the book Blu ????

Someone might as well make some money out of this TragiFarce :twisted:
and
Then a movie -- just like "SPUD" :D


The children asked him if to kill was not a sin
"Not when he looked so fierce", his mummy butted in
"If looks could kill it would have been us instead of him"
All the children sing

Hey, Bungalow Bill
What did you kill
Bungalow Bill? (9x) (fade out)
 
MidnightWizard said:
You writing the book Blu ????
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LOL, no book from me on this case ! :)

Update (keep in mind it is from The Sun):

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Dewani-seen-paying-taxi-driver-on-CCTV-20101209

Cape Town - Honeymoon murder suspect Shrien Dewani was captured on CCTV cameras paying cash to the taxi driver who admitted to arranging the murder of his bride, Anni Dewani, in an apparent botched hijacking.

The Sun reported on Thursday that footage from a camera at an upmarket Cape Town restaurant showed a private meeting between Dewani and Zola Tongo, who admitted his role in the murder in a plea bargain with the State earlier this week, and was sentenced to an effective 18 years in prison.

The CCTV footage and phone and text records led South African police to believe they had enough evidence to prosecute Dewani, the Sun said.

A "police source" told the British tabloid: "Tongo's claim he was given money by Dewani after Anni's death is backed up in full colour on video

Cash paid after murder

"CCTV footage shows them meeting in a restaurant area of a hotel and Shrien Dewani hands money to the driver."

According to the source, this happened days after Anni Dewani's body was found, when Dewani was staying at the Cape Grace Hotel, being comforted by relatives.

The Sun, however, pointed out that it was unclear why he was handing over the money, and he could simply have been paying a fare.

Dewani handed himself over to British authorities late on Tuesday night and was arrested. He appeared in a London court on Wednesday, where bail was denied. He is expected to appear in court again on Thursday.

Anni Dewani's sister, Ami, told the Sun: "I don't know what to believe."
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markings said:
In whatever way this plays out it looks bad for SA. What couple will come to this country in future when it is possible to pick up a murder organiser by selecting a random cab at the airport within half an hour of arriving, for what is essentially pocket money?
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Exactly, freaking driver should have reported him in the first place. Things like this will always be happening no matter how much we try to stop it.


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VernD said:
^ And the plot thickens. And the net is being spun more tightly around this chap/chop.
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Thorough police work will pay off in this case.

If the SAPS for example have a statement from Dewani saying that he had no further contact with the driver after the hijacking and this CCTV footage is produced, it makes him an extremely unbelievable person and the court will take a dim view of him indeed.
 
blunomore said:
Thorough police work will pay off in this case.

If the SAPS for example have a statement from Dewani saying that he had no further contact with the driver after the hijacking and this CCTV footage is produced, it makes him an extremely unbelievable person and the court will take a dim view of him indeed.
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I read the actual report in the Sun; in there it said:

"The driver's statements are also supported by witness statements and phone records at crucial times."
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VernD said:
I read the actual report in the Sun; in there it said:
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He will probably have some excuse for every phone call he made to Tongo.

Excuse my ignorance: if the police do not have someone 's cellphone, is there a way they can access the content of SMSes?
 
blunomore said:
Excuse my ignorance: if the police do not have someone 's cellphone, is there a way they can access the content of SMSes?
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The cellphone operator does not need the physical phone/SIM to access this data. That's assuming that they have their data in a proper accessible format, they sometimes claim that they have the data, but that they are not properly set up to access it.
 
hyperian said:
The text messages should be stored by the network operator methinks.
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I don't think they store text messages like they don't keep (voice) records of your conversations. They can show evidence texts were sent and the times that happened. We can ask OC. Surely Shrien was smart enough to have used a throw away sim for his 'mission'?
 
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R13... said:
I don't think they store text messages like they don't keep (voice) records of your conversations. They can show evidence texts were sent and the times that happened. We can ask OC. Surely Shrien was smart enough to have used a throw away sim for his 'mission'?
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Surely all they need is one of the phones? So they could have the taxi driver's phone that shows the message, and they could use the records to tie it back to the phone that the husband was using.
 
hyperian said:
Surely all they need is one of the phones? So they could have the taxi driver's phone that shows the message, and they could use the records to tie it back to the phone that the husband was using.
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What if the husband had an SA SIM card which he bought for the purpose, but later got rid of ? RICA ?
 
blunomore said:
What if the husband had an SA SIM card which he bought for the purpose, but later got rid of ? RICA ?
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For a while now, its been near imposible to buy a new SIM and not have it RICA'd. So he would have had to register it like all of us.
 
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