The Audi Thread

[Archer]

So is no-one getting a free A4 today on black friday?

No, I already spent my cash on a yacht you see, so no spare cash for an R8

 

[Kris4lis]

No this cvt box 1st gen 8 speed i think.

Yea it is an 8speed. I can conform that...
I dunni what to do. My heart screams yes... but my brain is telling me to be carefull...

 

[airborne]

For 95k probably wont find a better car. Maybe see if you can find manual rather. 2.0T and 2.0tdi also much better engines, doubt you will find it in that price range.

Get a manual and the TDi is awesome, amazing fuel economy on top of a great vehicle.

Yea and it only has 121 000km on the clock with a service history. It is sooooooo tempting. But im so scared at the same time.

Is this a 1st gen DSG? Or is it somthing completely different?

Mate just stay away unless you have the R50k in the bank in case for the gearbox, if I recall those were also the engines with potential piston ring wear/oil consumption issues and neither of those can be helped with low mileage or good service record. I've seen a few poor guys wailing with low mileage cars out of motorplan from the era and the oil consumption issue crops up, they have to take it on the chin, Audi will want something stupid like R80k to rebuild the engine.

My advice is look for a manual B8 or B7 TDi, especially the B7, you'll find a very clean low mileage one for well below R90k. Even on those boat sized cars guys get 5-6L/100KM, that economy adds up to significant savings over a few years of ownership over the equivalent petrol Audi.

 

[Kris4lis]

Tha ks for the advice guys. Much appreciated

 

[FiestaST]

 

[SauRoNZA]

Yea and it only has 121 000km on the clock with a service history. It is sooooooo tempting. But im so scared at the same time.

Is this a 1st gen DSG? Or is it somthing completely different?

Buy a warranty?

You’ll never replace the entire gearbox anyway, unless you take it to a dealer.

 

[airborne]

Buy a warranty?

You’ll never replace the entire gearbox anyway, unless you take it to a dealer.

Just a repair is apparently R40-60k, have heard some similarly crazy prices on some pretty budget Opel's, some Opel Meriva auto's costs over R40k to repair, not much less than what the vehicle is worth in good running order.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Just a repair is apparently R40-60k, have heard some similarly crazy prices on some pretty budget Opel's, some Opel Meriva auto's costs over R40k to repair, not much less than what the vehicle is worth in good running order.

Yeah there are always stories, but usually they are far from reality and complete hearsay.

For 40-60k you could just replace the whole gearbox with a donor or refurbished unit for that matter.

I would believe that pricing from a dealer as they don’t really care to repair anything and just replace replace replace.

But a third party specialist can do most things for much less, better and differently because their motivations are the same.

Funnily enough I have not heard of a single Multitronic failure. And I know three different owners of them.

 

[airborne]

Yeah there are always stories, but usually they are far from reality and complete hearsay.

For 40-60k you could just replace the whole gearbox with a donor or refurbished unit for that matter.

I would believe that pricing from a dealer as they don’t really care to repair anything and just replace replace replace.

But a third party specialist can do most things for much less, better and differently because their motivations are the same.

Funnily enough I have not heard of a single Multitronic failure. And I know three different owners of them.

You open by saying blah blah hearsay and then back up your closing argument with hearsay and a sample set of 3, logic fail.

Those are the prices from independent gearbox specialists, I got some quotes the other day. The dealers often don't even do the repairs themselves and contract it out because it's too complex/specialist tools need.

The places equipped to work on modern automatics are few and far between, so you typically have to add a good few thousand to the repair bill just to get the vehicle to the gearbox specialist on a flatbed, even worse if you stay in a smaller town.

Buying a donor gearbox is a crap shoot, it may have issues and then you are back to square one again but with a large hole burnt in your pocket.

R50K+/- is a fair figure to repair an Audi automatic and it's good to know what you are getting yourself into before buying one, in the grand scheme of things R50k isn't a lot but it is if it's not budgeted for.

 

[SauRoNZA]

You open by saying blah blah hearsay and then back up your closing argument with hearsay and a sample set of 3, logic fail.

Those are the prices from independent gearbox specialists, I got some quotes the other day. The dealers often don't even do the repairs themselves and contract it out because it's too complex/specialist tools need.

The places equipped to work on modern automatics are few and far between, so you typically have to add a good few thousand to the repair bill just to get the vehicle to the gearbox specialist on a flatbed, even worse if you stay in a smaller town.

Buying a donor gearbox is a crap shoot, it may have issues and then you are back to square one again but with a large hole burnt in your pocket.

R50K+/- is a fair figure to repair an Audi automatic and it's good to know what you are getting yourself into before buying one, in the grand scheme of things R50k isn't a lot but it is if it's not budgeted for.

Sure there’s nothing wrong being prepared for the worst.

But I’ve only ever seen these crazy bills happening under motorplan where everything is overinflated beyond reason.

And my point with mentioning three people was that it’s not hearsay friend of a friend stories, but rather a non-issue amongst the few owners I know.

Also an “Audi gearbox” is a very broad term of that covers three different types of boxes and none of which cost or have the same concerns.

 

[airborne]

Sure there’s nothing wrong being prepared for the worst.

But I’ve only ever seen these crazy bills happening under motorplan where everything is overinflated beyond reason.

And my point with mentioning three people was that it’s not hearsay friend of a friend stories, but rather a non-issue amongst the few owners I know.

Also an “Audi gearbox” is a very broad term of that covers three different types of boxes and none of which cost or have the same concerns.

Hearsay is relaying the claims of a 3rd party, that's exactly what you are doing. But then you go on to claim to have seen "crazy bills happening under motorplan" for gearbox repairs so you obviously have experienced Audi automatics giving issues, or are you just engaging in hearsay again?

There is no Audi automatic gearbox that can be cheaply rebuilt, some are more reliable than others but when they go tits up there are no shortcuts to getting them fixed.

There's few pirate parts for them, you have to pony up for original parts at Audi prices and your awesome well priced local indy can't work on it, it has to go to one of the few specialists that can and they aren't cheap.

That's the problem, the motorplan prices are probably not far off from what the specialists charge because it's not like other repairs on a vehicle that you can pick and choose the parts supplier and workshop, the only option is Audi original parts and pick your poison out of the small handful of people that are equipped to work on them.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Hearsay is relaying the claims of a 3rd party, that's exactly what you are doing. But then you go on to claim to have seen "crazy bills happening under motorplan" for gearbox repairs so you obviously have experienced Audi automatics giving issues, or are you just engaging in hearsay again?

I don’t know a single person who had a Multitronic fail and those are the three I mentioned.

I know two people who had DSG/S-tronic failures under motorplan for the crazy money.

Know one other that had a failure out of warranty and at a third party and it was *only* 18k.

I have never heard of a Tiptronic failure.

Hearsay is using third party “friend of a friend” information. I’m referring to direct owners that I know personally.

There is no Audi automatic gearbox that can be cheaply rebuilt, some are more reliable than others but when they go tits up there are no shortcuts to getting them fixed.

Sure. I wasn’t saying it doesn’t happen but it is still very much a minority and I don’t like this picture that gets painted that every unit will eventually fail.

There's few pirate parts for them, you have to pony up for original parts at Audi prices and your awesome well priced local indy can't work on it, it has to go to one of the few specialists that can and they aren't cheap.

That's the problem, the motorplan prices are probably not far off from what the specialists charge because it's not like other repairs on a vehicle that you can pick and choose the parts supplier and workshop, the only option is Audi original parts and pick your poison out of the small handful of people that are equipped to work on them.

A lot of it is repairable though and doesn’t always require replacement.

Sure either way it’s not cheap and cheerful but generally the motorplan way is to simply replace replace replace.

 

[airborne]

I don’t know a single person who had a Multitronic fail and those are the three I mentioned.

I know two people who had DSG/S-tronic failures under motorplan for the crazy money.

Know one other that had a failure out of warranty and at a third party and it was *only* 18k.

I have never heard of a Tiptronic failure.

Hearsay is using third party “friend of a friend” information. I’m referring to direct owners that I know personally.


Sure. I wasn’t saying it doesn’t happen but it is still very much a minority and I don’t like this picture that gets painted that every unit will eventually fail.


A lot of it is repairable though and doesn’t always require replacement.

Sure either way it’s not cheap and cheerful but generally the motorplan way is to simply replace replace replace.

You are still peddling your hearsay/speculation as fact, ratchet your ego down a few notches :crylaugh:

 

[StrontiumDog]

Get Holts tar remover in the spray tin(do not get any other variety that is the one that works) from Midas, R70, amazing stuff, also takes off glue residue etc, if that won't take it off then take it to auto amour.

Brasso will leave hectic swirl marks/scratches, not advisable for car paint.

^ Thanks guys. It's little specks of paint here and there, quite spread out and not that much, so not that noticeable, at most maybe 80cm radiating out from where the driver would sit, so affected area is drivers door, bonnet and right front panel. The biggest specks maybe 2mm across. OK, will try some tar remover first and see how it goes. I should have gone the DIY approach ages ago, silly me and having left it so long it's possibly gonna leave tiny marks when i remove it now :/

I could only find Holts in a non-spray bottle (R39) at the Midas store I went to, i tested it on one spot and it got the paint off after 2 tries with some elbow grease. Wiped off any residue with a wet paper towel afterwards. The majority of the specks are half a mm wide. I'll need to get the car washed so that I can see where the paint specks are and then spend about 2 hours removing them myself.

 

[airborne]

I could only find Holts in a non-spray bottle (R39) at the Midas store I went to, i tested it on one spot and it got the paint off after 2 tries with some elbow grease. Wiped off any residue with a wet paper towel afterwards. The majority of the specks are half a mm wide. I'll need to get the car washed so that I can see where the paint specks are and then spend about 2 hours removing them myself.

I think they do also make a non spray version in a bottle, just as long as the name and label look the same it's all good, very handy stuff.

 

[f2wohf]

Just spotted a nardo grey RS3 from my A3, impressive noise.

 

[StrontiumDog]

I think they do also make a non spray version in a bottle, just as long as the name and label look the same it's all good, very handy stuff.

Yeah, it's this one below:

 

[airborne]

Yeah, it's this one below:
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Looks like the one, you paid a good price, almost R60 at my local Midas for some reason.

 

[Supersonicbaron]

I'm also looking. Please let me know what you find?

Vick’s Auto Clinic, I’m send in my A4 in for its 120K service on Wednesday , I’ll let you know how it goes.

http://www.vicksautoclinic.co.za

 

[FiestaST]

Audi Sport boss confirms electrified performance cars from 2020

As well as electrification, Stephan Winkelmann also discussed more performance SUVs

Outgoing Audi Sport boss Stephan Winkelmann has confirmed that Audi’s performance arm will introduce electrified vehicles from 2020 and would produce more fast models based on SUVs.

Winkelmann, who will become president of Bugatti from January 2018, said at the RS4 launch that Audi Sport “will be less evolutionary and more into revolution”.

Audi Sport, which was rebranded from Quattro last year, will see “from 2020 onwards, the start of the introduction of battery electric vehicles”, said Winkelmann: “This will start by the end of 2020, with the first car of Audi Sport, and then there will be more coming in the third decade of this millennium.

“We are also looking into cars which are, let’s say, in a growing segment or a body segment which is growing. These are the Qs. We will get more of them and we think that this is going to help us because every car we are building, and every car we are investing in, should have global visibility, so not just in Europe but in Asia and the Americas.”

Such models wouldn’t replace Audi Sport’s traditional line-up, though, Winkelmann added: “In 2018, 19, 20, we will have a lot of turbo engines with new models. We are not forgetting our icons, so we will continue to build them. Even if we keep in mind that electrification is important for us, legislators permitting, our turbo engines will stay because we are very proud of these.”

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/...ss-confirms-electrified-performance-cars-2020