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To be honest I didn't notice. Maybe because I wasn't looking for it.
Well the trick is to not buy the most expensive and not the cheapest find a common ground
Best thing for auto gearbox maintenance especially cvt is fresh oil at reduced service intervals, I’d go with every 50k but 30k certainly won’t hurt and may help prevent premature faulure.
The torque converter clutch packs are a lot more durable than ones with friction discs.
You can order Ravenol online, free shipping if you order enough for a gearbox oil change.
Ah ok that’s interesting, Honda made the move to torque converter clutches on their cvt’s in 2012.Found this on an older article referencing Multitronic on a B6 Audi A4:
So looks like a wet clutch pack for initial engagement with the cones and chain for gradual ratio adjustment as you pick up speed. And I doubt those clutch packs are serviceable, so you probably have to toss the gearbox once they wear out
I definitely think that TQ transmissions have their place in the world. Hell, I even see that VW is offering them on some of their models (1.4 T-Roc has 8-spd Tip vs 2.0T-Roc with 7-spd DSG), so I think that the tech has come far enough that they can hang with the fancier units these days. Whenever I hear clutchpacks I think of bikes with the emphasis on lightness and where you can bathe your pack in oil to keep it cool and lubricated.
Reversing up a steep driveway every morning is a big no-no. A colleague's wife did this from new and it was poked 6 months after the warranty was up.I definitely think that TQ transmissions have their place in the world. Hell, I even see that VW is offering them on some of their models (1.4 T-Roc has 8-spd Tip vs 2.0T-Roc with 7-spd DSG), so I think that the tech has come far enough that they can hang with the fancier units these days. Whenever I hear clutchpacks I think of bikes with the emphasis on lightness and where you can bathe your pack in oil to keep it cool and lubricated.
I have heard of a few isolated incidents of these Multitronic transmissions having issues, but most are few and far between. I've found that, in my experience, reverse gear is quite lethargic though, so reversing up a steep incline feels really wrong, almost like it doesn't have the power to move the car around. Other than that, another complaint is the 'rubber band' feeling on pullaway which isn't really a major one to me, as I am not a robot racer
But, reading up, if you start having judder on pullaway, it means the clutchpack is busy going out. And flashing PRND lights mean an issue with the TCM, usually. And also (anecdotally) they seem to last longer in the petrol engines than when mated to the diesel engines, so I would imagine the extra torque places additional strain on the box.
Yup, we have a steep one too, but enough space to turn around at the bottom at least.
The shudder is normally the first sign the oil is very contaminated with friction material, if you change it asap it’s normally fine, the problems start when the oil is not changed asap and the high levels of friction material accelerate the clutch wear. Changing the oil regularly keeps the friction material contamination low and hence reduces cultch wear and extends the serviceable life. And pull off lightly, hammering it regularly on takeoff will chow the clutch faster. I think if you drive them carefully and change the oil regularly they last just fine.I definitely think that TQ transmissions have their place in the world. Hell, I even see that VW is offering them on some of their models (1.4 T-Roc has 8-spd Tip vs 2.0T-Roc with 7-spd DSG), so I think that the tech has come far enough that they can hang with the fancier units these days. Whenever I hear clutchpacks I think of bikes with the emphasis on lightness and where you can bathe your pack in oil to keep it cool and lubricated.
I have heard of a few isolated incidents of these Multitronic transmissions having issues, but most are few and far between. I've found that, in my experience, reverse gear is quite lethargic though, so reversing up a steep incline feels really wrong, almost like it doesn't have the power to move the car around. Other than that, another complaint is the 'rubber band' feeling on pullaway which isn't really a major one to me, as I am not a robot racer
But, reading up, if you start having judder on pullaway, it means the clutchpack is busy going out. And flashing PRND lights mean an issue with the TCM, usually. And also (anecdotally) they seem to last longer in the petrol engines than when mated to the diesel engines, so I would imagine the extra torque places additional strain on the box.
That seems to be the general notion. They are quite 'fragile' as far as gearboxes are concerned, so they have to be treated with care to make them last. I found a very good (100+ pages) tech document on the 01J gearbox, but haven't found anything similar for the newer ones. I think they discontinued Multitronic around 2017?
I try use 10ppm when possible (only Total has it in dbn afaik) as it smells less.
AFAIK Engen only has 50ppm so no other choice really.
I have a rule with Audis and that is to ignore the ones made before 2013 (and the ones made after the fake badging and no push buttons).Wowzer, that price & those kilos
