The Benoni - Visser double murder case

Nerfherder said:
Good god... what kind of child abuse name is that ??
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What's wrong with it? I knew a few girls with that name or some derivative spelling of it.

But what can you expect from a man with a surname for a first name?

Nerfherder said:
Are people actually called Poena ?
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Okay I'll acquiesce that Poena is child abuse.
 
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pinball wizard said:
Is this the same Poena that used to be seen driving around Benoni in that Focus ST with the Poena number plate? Now that I think about it, it has been a while since I've seen that car around.
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Yes shame piece of ****.
 
Ninja'd said:
Strikes me as unusual. I remember one time while watching rugby that the commentator had his names mixed up whenever he mentioned De Wet Barry :D
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Point taken, I personally don't find it unusual unless it is something like van der Merwe or Bronkhorst :D My son has 2 surnames for names
 
Ninja'd said:
Strikes me as unusual.
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It's an Afrikaans thing. same as not wearing shoes to school. I still rag my wife about that, (She's Afrikaans, I'm Irish) she does claim she wore shoes to school, maybe the Afrikaaners do in KZN.
 
pinball wizard said:
It's an Afrikaans thing. same as not wearing shoes to school. I still rag my wife about that, (She's Afrikaans, I'm Irish) she does claim she wore shoes to school, maybe the Afrikaaners do in KZN.
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Yoh!


/flees from incoming mob
 
pinball wizard said:
It's an Afrikaans thing. same as not wearing shoes to school. I still rag my wife about that, (She's Afrikaans, I'm Irish) she does claim she wore shoes to school, maybe the Afrikaaners do in KZN.
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We wore shoes, new kids from the other side of the boerewors curtain rocked up barefoot.
 
What reputation did Poena have?
 
Benoni father acquitted after killing daughter's boyfriend

PRETORIA – A Benoni businessman who shot and killed his daughter’s boyfriend and the boyfriend’s father at his home two years ago has been acquitted of murder on the grounds of criminal incapacity.

Retief Liebenberg killed Dewald Visser and his son Poena after the pair attacked him in his home during a heated argument over his daughter Chevonne.

Chevonne testified that her boyfriend was an abusive drug addict and threatened her father on the day of the shooting.

Judge Mahomed Ismail accepted the evidence of a psychologist who found that under the extreme emotional circumstances, Liebenberg suffered amnesia and disassociation.
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More at http://ewn.co.za/2015/11/19/Benoni-man-acquitted-of-murder-of-daughters-boyfriend
 
Judge Mahomed Ismail accepted the evidence of a psychologist who found that under the extreme emotional circumstances, Liebenberg suffered amnesia and disassociation.
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I honestly thought this was the stuff of Boston Legal and L&O.
 
Dad aquitted after killing daughters boyfriend and his dad.

I wonder how many other people will use this legal argument now.


http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/dad-walks-free-after-killing-pair-1.1948306

Pretoria - Businessman Retief Liebenberg, 50, who fired nine shots, killing a father and son instantly, walked out of the high court a free man on Thursday.

Judge Mohamed Ismail labelled Liebenberg’s actions as “robot-like” during the 10 seconds in which he continuously fired the shots.

The Benoni resident escaped a double murder conviction, thanks to the testimony of the head of Weskoppies Hospital in Pretoria.

Afterwards, an emotional Liebenberg appeared to pray as he sat dead still for several minutes in the dock of the high court in Pretoria.

Judge Ismail acquitted him of murdering Dewald Visser, 47, and his son Poena, 19. He found Liebenberg acted in a state of dissociation when he fired nine shots - five hitting the father and four the son.

Head of Weskoppies Hospital, Professor Jonathan Scholtz, testified on behalf of Liebenberg that although there were no objective tests to confirm the accused suffered from amnesia when he fired, the facts of the case confirmed this.

Liebenberg feared that the Vissers would harm him and his daughter Chevonne, who was Poena’s girlfriend, and his extreme fear triggered his actions.

The court accepted Scholtz’s findings. The judge said he posed several questions to the expert, who was held in high esteem, and he answered every one of them. His findings were also uncontested.

Judge Ismail said he considered all the evidence against the backdrop of Scholtz’s expert evidence and concluded Liebenberg had acted mechanically when he fired the shots. Liebenberg’s second defence -one of private self defence - had the judge frowning. He branded this defence as a red herring. “Had it not been for Professor Scholtz’s evidence, he could have been convicted of murder,” the judge said.

He accepted Scholtz’s evidence that Liebenberg acted involuntarily for a few seconds and was unable to distinguish between right and wrong. He lost his ability to control his actions when he fired the shots.

Liebenberg told the Pretoria News in a trembling voice that he never meant to shoot the pair. “I am so sorry for what happened. This was a terrible time for me and my family. This is not something I planned. Both our families suffered loss - they lost their love ones; our lives will never be the same again.”

Emotional scenes played out in court with the Liebenberg family shedding tears of relief. His wife Roxanne cried uncontrollably and could not speak to the media. A family member said they were relieved but could now move on.

The Vissers gasped in shock, before dashing out of court, with Poena’s brother Demetrio, saying: “This was ridiculous” and that he was going to appeal.

Visser’s widow, Sherese, said through tears: “I don’t know how I feel. I am simply shocked.”

Earlier, Liebenberg testified that he had amnesia for a few seconds and did not realise that he had shot the pair in his home on October 31, 2013. The last thing he could recall was that the father and son were attacking him.

His next recollection was of his brother shaking him and telling him to stop firing. He then saw Visser snr lying at the front door, and Poena in the kitchen.

Chevonne described Poena as aggressive and abusive. She tried to hide from him, but he came to her parental home, where she lived, on the day of the incident. Her father told him to leave, but Poena instead phoned his father for back-up.

Liebenberg said he was terrified of them, as they were known for their aggression, and all he wanted was to protect his daughter. She was a drug addict at the time and he believed that Poena supplied her with substances.

Liebenberg said on that fateful day he went upstairs to call Chevonne for dinner but found Poena lying on her bed with his hands behind his head.

Liebenberg said there was blood on the curtains. He feared that his daughter had been hurt. He said Poena wagged his finger in his face, saying he was going to “f*** me up.”

Liebenberg told Poena that he was going to phone the police, but he replied it would not help, as his family had friends in high places.

He was afraid and fetched his firearm, which he had forgotten on the fridge the previous day.

Liebenberg said when he got to the lounge, Visser walked through the door, and without saying anything, tried to punch his brother.

Chevonne, who was also in the lounge, fainted. “As I tried to pick her up Poena and his father punched me in the chest. I also felt blows to my face and neck. That is the last I can remember.”

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A photo of Chevonne Liebenberg
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nice bike. complete bs. he should go to jail. somebody maybe should return the favour and use the same defense.
 
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