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Just wondering which airlines people favour.....When I fly from Cyprus to SA, I like to use Emirates, as they have a flight from Larnaca to Dubai, then on to Durban, which suits me "down to the ground". :) My grandson works for Etihad, but unfortunately they stopped flying to Cyprus. Then there's also Qatar, which I believe is excellent.
 
Singapore Air by miles

Singapore is the nicest airport in the world by far, has the prettiest airhostesses and best service.

Really the best. Emirates was ok but Qatar had newer airplanes. So nicer. And once you've gone thru Changhi you know why Singapore is best. No irritating security.

Cathay Pacific is great too as well as Virgin.
 
It depends which airline is available for a specific destination, some Airlines don't fly specific countries. Out of the British Airways, South African Airways, China Airlines, Emirates, Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific Airways I have been on I prefer Singapore Airlines.

As for best Airlines changes every year.

Air New Zealand wins 2017 Airline of the Year

AirlineRatings.com's top 10 airlines for 2017

1. Air New Zealand
2. Qantas
3. Singapore Airlines
4. Cathay Pacific (Hong Kong)
5. Virgin Atlantic/Virgin Australia
6. British Airways
7. Etihad Airways (UAE)
8. All Nippon Airways (Japan)
9. Eva Air (Taiwan)
10. Lufthansa (Germany)

Skytrax World Airline Awards The World's Top 12 Airlines in 2017

Emirates wins 2017 Skytrax Airline of the Year

1. Emirates
2. Qatar Airways
3. Singapore Airlines
4. Cathay Pacific (Hong Kong)
5. ANAs (Japan)
6. Etihad Airways (UAE)
7. Turkish Airlines
8. EVA Air (Taiwan)
9. Qantas Airways
10. Lufthansa (Germany)
11. Garuda Indonesia
12. Hainan Airlines



Safest Airline in 2016 according to Airlineratings released in early 2017.

1. Qantas
2. Air New Zealand
3. Alaska Airlines
4. All Nippon Airlines (ANA) (Japan)
5. American Airlines
6. Cathay Pacific Airways (Hong Kong)
7. Emirates (UAE)
8. Etihad Airways (UAE)
9. EVA Air (Taiwan)
10. Finnair
11. Hawaiian Airlines
12. Japan Airlines

Safest Airline 2016 according to Jet Airliner Crash Data Evaluation Centre released in early 2017

1. Cathay Pacific Airways (Hong Kong)
2. Air New Zealand
3. Hainan Airlines
4. Qatar Airways
5. KLM (Netherlands)
6. EVA Air (Taiwan)
7. Emirates (UAE)
8. Etihad Airways (UAE)
9. Quantas
10. Japan Airlines
11. All Nippon Airlines (ANA) (Japan)
12. Lufthansa (Germany)
 
MIA7171 said:
Safest Airline in 2016 according to Airlineratings released in early 2017.

1. Qantas
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Haha, seriously? I wonder on what do they base this? Track record, or practices? The latter is almost impossible to utilize in determining the safest (helps in determining the ones which aren't safe of course).
 
They're all pretty decent. Given a choice I fly BA though.

Idiosyncratic said:
Haha, seriously? I wonder on what do they base this? Track record, or practices? The latter is almost impossible to utilize in determining the safest (helps in determining the ones which aren't safe of course).
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They've been ranked #1 for safety for as long as I can remember
 
HavocXphere said:
They're all pretty decent. Given a choice I fly BA though.


They've been ranked #1 for safety for as long as I can remember
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I wondering based on what they're determining this though? It's true Qantas has never had any jet fatalities, but if we were looking at that exclusively, then there are several airlines that qualify for safest - and Qantas would have to cede place to another airline which hasn't had onboard explosions and catastrophic failures. Qantas is no stranger to reportable incidents though, and based on that alone they'd definitely fall out of the top 10. No doubt they're safe, not disputing that, but I do find them being #1 rather funny in light of recent incidents I've heard about.
 
Idiosyncratic said:
I wondering based on what they're determining this though? It's true Qantas has never had any jet fatalities, but if we were looking at that exclusively, then there are several airlines that qualify for safest - and Qantas would have to cede place to another airline which hasn't had onboard explosions and catastrophic failures. Qantas is no stranger to reportable incidents though, and based on that alone they'd definitely fall out of the top 10. No doubt they're safe, not disputing that, but I do find them being #1 rather funny in light of recent incidents I've heard about.
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Find an airlines with a significant fleet flying for 80 years without any crash. The only one I know is Qantas.
 
Alviaa said:
Just wondering which airlines people favour.....When I fly from Cyprus to SA, I like to use Emirates, as they have a flight from Larnaca to Dubai, then on to Durban, which suits me "down to the ground". :) My grandson works for Etihad, but unfortunately they stopped flying to Cyprus. Then there's also Qatar, which I believe is excellent.
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I've never understood how people love Qatar. I flew 6 times with them and always found the staff obnoxious and frankly unpleasant.

The planes are brand new, Doha's airport is nice but I stopped flying with them because of this.

Emirates/Etihad you pretty much summed it up. Turkish is quite good but I doubt they fly to Cyprus (who knows why !).
 
f2wohf said:
Find an airlines with a significant fleet flying for 80 years without any crash. The only one I know is Qantas.
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Except Qantas hasn't had any jetliner fatality or jetliner hull loss, the notion that they have never had a single crash is an urban legend. Cathay Pacific comes to mind if you want to compare apples with apples - no jet fatalities I'm aware of.

Furthermore, Air New Zealand is second on both lists, despite having had 4 hull losses?

Hence my initial question, on what are they basing this?
 
I have to give Singapore Air the prize for my favourite airline.

I flew with Qatar a few years ago and it was excellent, flew with them again last year and it was extremely cramped and not up to standard.

Emirates two years ago was fine with the $1 wifi, that kept me busy.

Flew with SAA to India in 2007 and had great service.

Malaysia Airlines also had high standards but they sadly stopped flying here.
 
Idiosyncratic said:
Except Qantas hasn't had any jetliner fatality or jetliner hull loss, the notion that they have never had a single crash is an urban legend. Cathay Pacific comes to mind if you want to compare apples with apples - no jet fatalities I'm aware of.

Furthermore, Air New Zealand is second on both lists, despite having had 4 hull losses?

Hence my initial question, on what are they basing this?
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Check Convair and Cathay, they've had a jet fatality.
 
Singapore Air is pretty cool, changi is the best damn airport ever.

I've flown Qatar via doha and it was nice and new and clean too.

SAA was meh.

Lufthansa was ok. Munich airport is quite nice too for short stops.

KLM wasn't great. Cramped and the in flight entertainment system was down so we each got a crappy discount voucher for our next flight that was only valid for 6 months.

I'd rather fly a longer route using Qatar, Emirates, Singapore air or even slightly more expensive, than have to deal with ****ty airlines and airports.
 
f2wohf said:
Check Convair and Cathay, they've had a jet fatality.
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Ah, fair enough, wasn't aware of Flight 33 (and yet they're still rank #1 on many lists).

What you could look at then is Hawaiian Airlines - NO hull losses or fatalities since they started in 1929 (according to IATA) whereas Qantas had several hull losses and a few fatalities.

My point still stands regardless of this anyway. If they're basing current safety on the fact Qantas hasn't lost a jet since starting to operate them then they must be smoking the good stuff. Qantas had a high annual reportable incident rate in the last 10 years vs others in the top 10, and for me this is surely one of the key things you'd rather look at vs total accidents per airline? If you were looking at the latter only, then that would skew numbers in the favour of airlines like Etihad (A6-EHG would not be considered). These numbers are meant to be safest "now", and the inclusion of Air NZ at #2 seems to indicate that's what they're trying to get at.

Emirates, for example, has an excellent safety record, particularly when you take into account the sheer number of aircraft they own and operate. However, they are most definitely not the safest airline in the world and don't deserve a spot in the top 10 due to bad practices within the airline, particularly with regards to resource and risk management... somehow they're on the list, indicating this must have been ignored? IATA has been clear in times past that airlines like Malaysian Airlines aren't necessarily more high risk than any other airline by default. Sometimes life happens, but in the case of airlines like FlyDubai where it was literally a matter of time before the ticking time-bomb went off, well, it's the practices that lead to that sort of thing that you ideally need to look at when determining who is the safest.
 
bokka1 said:
I have to give Singapore Air the prize for my favourite airline.

I flew with Qatar a few years ago and it was excellent, flew with them again last year and it was extremely cramped and not up to standard.

Emirates two years ago was fine with the $1 wifi, that kept me busy.

Flew with SAA to India in 2007 and had great service.

Malaysia Airlines also had high standards but they sadly stopped flying here.
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$1 WiFi? That's awesome: Delta just charged me $9 for one hour of WiFi in the air lol.

I'd recommend Delta for flights to/from the US: their prices were easily the best, the planes are newish and the staff are friendly. Operations in the big Delta base airport (Atlanta) is impressively slick (complete with a train to whisk travellers between terminals).

I used to enjoy Emirates but had a really bad service experience with rude staff in Dubai, so would probably try Singapore if the price was equivalent.
 
Qantas is due a big accident. They have had engines fall off mid-air and a few other mishaps. I know many actuaries that wont fly with them. Complacency can leads to accidents.

Most business people are avoiding Emirates, Qatar and Etihad because you have to check all your laptops and electronics in due to Trump. Its causing them headaches and business travellers dropped by 80%.
 
There's no best. With each and every flight, the experience will be different.
 
Corelli said:
Qantas is due a big accident. They have had engines fall off mid-air and a few other mishaps. I know many actuaries that wont fly with them. Complacency can leads to accidents.

Most business people are avoiding Emirates, Qatar and Etihad because you have to check all your laptops and electronics in due to Trump. Its causing them headaches and business travellers dropped by 80%.
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The laptop rule is linked to airports not airlines.

And I very much doubt actuaries will avoid them due to being "due a big accident". That's not how stats work...

If you flip a coin and it's heads in a row that doesn't increase the odds of the next flip being a tail.
 
Best airline I have flown with on long haul flight was Etihad - experience wise. Friendly, new, spacious. Coolest plane was Lufthansa A380 - very comfy. Also actually have nothing bad to say about Delta which I have flown with many times, but nothing stands out.

Best domestic airline was Southwest in the US followed by Kulula here. I also recall a flight on Scandinavian Air in Europe in a pisswilly little tiny jet. Was scary and amazing at the same time. Was actually very impressed with that.

Worst flight experience of my entire life: Spirit in the US. Wow. Just wow.
 
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