The Big Switcheroo : Going from Apple back to...

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With the impending change in jobs and the assumption that my time with an Apple MacBook Pro as a daily driver being open the Windows 10 presentation has finally convinced me to take the plunge.

As with all things in my life I like to make it difficult for myself, so instead of one change at a time I do it all at once, that's way you are so bewildered you don't have time to worry about it.

As a PC gamer I was always a Windows geek by default, until 2005 when I started to specialise in Apple and mostly converted to console gaming. So for most of the last 10 years I have been rocking a Mac in some form except for a brief stint on Windows in 2010 before switching to a Linux desktop for a long time and eventually getting back to OSX. Of course I work with Windows often enough, just not as a primary/personal OS.

Somewhere in between I left behind my stream of Sony Ericsson devices and took the plunge on the iPhone 3GS and later iPhone 4S and most recently the iPhone 5S. I will admit all of these were paid for by my company and therefore cost was never a concern.

In 2011 I got an iPad 2 and I'm typing on that right now as it's still rocking onwards for my purposes but I will admit getting a bit sluggish now.

So to summarise, I am a full blown certifiable (and actually certified) Apple super geek who is completely invested in the Eco system and therefore often miss many people's moans about Apple because a great many aren't applicable when you have everything the way Apple want it.

And then I ordered a Lumia 830 the other night.

Why? I will admit a big part of it is just my inner geek wanting to play with something new. The other motivation is that it's something I know nothing about in a personal hands on capacity.

What finally pushed me over the edge was the Windows 10 briefing and the evidence that Microsoft's time is coming again. The company is now run by people who "get it" and a younger bunch at that from my own generation. Good things are coming...or at least so I hope.

My hand is forced a bit by the job change as I'll have no choice but to go Windows. Well I could go Linux but to this day I don't feel the Desktop versions are quite there yet. Close, but for all the things I want to do and my conversion from Apple, Windows is the better answer.

Also I like closed systems. Yes I said it. So jumping from iOS to Windows makes more sense to me that going for the wide open system that is Android and the various caveats of that, but more than this I have always loved to support the Underdog.

Apple was that Underdog when I first started working in their products and that made it awesome. Microsoft is the new underdog (mobile at least) and I feel the same excitement for that all over again.

I'm also a big Cloud supporter. At the moment I cloud sync to three different locations. My phone backs up to iCloud which in turn syncs my photos to my MacBook and iPhoto. Which in turn gets synced back to Copy.com where I have a 150gb account for just photos and really important stuff. Google Docs is also a big thing in my life.

Beyond that my MacBook and iPhone also upload all my photos to Google+ which offers me free unlimited storage at lower resolution which is fine as its a fail safe backup and an easy sharing solution.

My Copy.com account syncs back down to my Microserver for offline backup so that if something goes horribly wrong I don't need to download all of it.

So that brings me to Office 365 Home and it's 5 x Users with 1TB of cloud storage each for R800 a year option. Microsoft is getting it right and offering all the right combinations to get me to buy into it. No wonder the OS is free, it doesn't make them money.

What is this thread about? Well in the next few days I'll receive a Lumia 830 and rather than put my commentary/complaints/questions somewhere else I figured I would focus it here. Although I'm familiar with Windows as an OS I'll also comment on that as I go along since I haven't used 8/8.1 Ina daily personal use capacity.

Expect some moans and groans and maybe some surprises.

**** should have reserved some posts.

2015-01-25 - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=14448470
 
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Welcome back to the fold! Always nice to have back one of our sheep that has gone astray :D
 
Well I'm not there yet.

I've set it up as a no fail option by upgrading her contract for the 830 and giving her my 5S.

If I can't stand it we just switch back.

If I do like it I'll upgrade to the 930 come October probably.
 
Windows will never match the snappiness and performance of osx running on a mac. For someone that bangs out code all day long, even a slight delay between when i click something and the result grinds my balls
 
Windows will never match the snappiness and performance of osx running on a mac. For someone that bangs out code all day long, even a slight delay between when i click something and the result grinds my balls


"Never" is a helluva thing to be sure about
 
Windows will never match the snappiness and performance of osx running on a mac. For someone that bangs out code all day long, even a slight delay between when i click something and the result grinds my balls

Ha ha. My Lenovo X230 with an i7, 16 GB RAM and a 250 GB SSD begs to differ.
 
Windows will never match the snappiness and performance of osx running on a mac. For someone that bangs out code all day long, even a slight delay between when i click something and the result grinds my balls

Whatever. My old i5, 8 GB RAM and a 120 GB SSD begs to differ. I bang out code all day without delay.
 
With the impending change in jobs and the assumption that my time with an Apple MacBook Pro as a daily driver being open the Windows 10 presentation has finally convinced me to take the plunge.

As with all things in my life I like to make it difficult for myself, so instead of one change at a time I do it all at once, that's way you are so bewildered you don't have time to worry about it.

As a PC gamer I was always a Windows geek by default, until 2005 when I started to specialise in Apple and mostly converted to console gaming. So for most of the last 10 years I have been rocking a Mac in some form except for a brief stint on Windows in 2010 before switching to a Linux desktop for a long time and eventually getting back to OSX. Of course I work with Windows often enough, just not as a primary/personal OS.

Somewhere in between I left behind my stream of Sony Ericsson devices and took the plunge on the iPhone 3GS and later iPhone 4S and most recently the iPhone 5S. I will admit all of these were paid for by my company and therefore cost was never a concern.

In 2011 I got an iPad 2 and I'm typing on that right now as it's still rocking onwards for my purposes but I will admit getting a bit sluggish now.

So to summarise, I am a full blown certifiable (and actually certified) Apple super geek who is completely invested in the Eco system and therefore often miss many people's moans about Apple because a great many aren't applicable when you have everything the way Apple want it.

And then I ordered a Lumia 830 the other night.

Why? I will admit a big part of it is just my inner geek wanting to play with something new. The other motivation is that it's something I know nothing about in a personal hands on capacity.

What finally pushed me over the edge was the Windows 10 briefing and the evidence that Microsoft's time is coming again. The company is now run by people who "get it" and a younger bunch at that from my own generation. Good things are coming...or at least so I hope.

My hand is forced a bit by the job change as I'll have no choice but to go Windows. Well I could go Linux but to this day I don't feel the Desktop versions are quite there yet. Close, but for all the things I want to do and my conversion from Apple, Windows is the better answer.

Also I like closed systems. Yes I said it. So jumping from iOS to Windows makes more sense to me that going for the wide open system that is Android and the various caveats of that, but more than this I have always loved to support the Underdog.

Apple was that Underdog when I first started working in their products and that made it awesome. Microsoft is the new underdog (mobile at least) and I feel the same excitement for that all over again.

I'm also a big Cloud supporter. At the moment I cloud sync to three different locations. My phone backs up to iCloud which in turn syncs my photos to my MacBook and iPhoto. Which in turn gets synced back to Copy.com where I have a 150gb account for just photos and really important stuff. Google Docs is also a big thing in my life.

Beyond that my MacBook and iPhone also upload all my photos to Google+ which offers me free unlimited storage at lower resolution which is fine as its a fail safe backup and an easy sharing solution.

My Copy.com account syncs back down to my Microserver for offline backup so that if something goes horribly wrong I don't need to download all of it.

So that brings me to Office 365 Home and it's 5 x Users with 1TB of cloud storage each for R800 a year option. Microsoft is getting it right and offering all the right combinations to get me to buy into it. No wonder the OS is free, it doesn't make them money.

What is this thread about? Well in the next few days I'll receive a Lumia 830 and rather than put my commentary/complaints/questions somewhere else I figured I would focus it here. Although I'm familiar with Windows as an OS I'll also comment on that as I go along since I haven't used 8/8.1 Ina daily personal use capacity.

Expect some moans and groans and maybe some surprises.
Very interesting post. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait for your review maybe I'll grab a WP8.1 device myself. Just wish there was an updated Lumia 1520 the rumored 1530.
 
I don't think it will work. :)
You have hell of experience, so welcome back to the world with Escape and Undo! :)

Not getting the Escape and Undo commentary, so going to presume Mac ignorance.

Very interesting post. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait for your review maybe I'll grab a WP8.1 device myself. Just wish there was an updated Lumia 1520 the rumored 1530.

I did play with the idea of going phablet but since I ride a bike every day it's not so practical.

The 830 wasn't my first choice but it was the best "free" or rather no risk choice for now.

Considering I'm going from an iPhone 5S the hardware is on par at least.

My logic is also related to the fact that now that I'm paying for my own phone I simply can't accept iPhone pricing as reasonable, therefore I don't see myself upgrading to the latest and greatest in October anyway.
 
Windows will never match the snappiness and performance of osx running on a mac. For someone that bangs out code all day long, even a slight delay between when i click something and the result grinds my balls
Such a n00b. I "bang out code" all day too and don't experience this lack of snappiness you experience.

Be wary of the God complex...

Edit: Nice OP Sau. Actually enjoyed the read.
 
Thanks.

You might not like it once I start moaning and groaning.

Then again, if I praise it too much I'll be called a fanboy by the flip side again.

But my intention was to offer something a little different from a genuinely platform agnostic view.
 
Windows will never match the snappiness and performance of osx running on a mac. For someone that bangs out code all day long, even a slight delay between when i click something and the result grinds my balls

I can't say I've ever really experienced a snappiness issue, not even in a VM or connecting remotely.

Stability and driver drama and that kind of thing yes. Approaches of logic from the one to the other differences yes.

One thing I can say I sorely miss from standard OSX found in Windows 7 and upwards is the ability to snap windows to the sides and auto resize them.

Windows management in OSX leaves a lot to be desired. At the same time I find OSX much easier to operate with the keyboard and related shortcuts.

I've also has my MacBook which goes in my bag and on my back every day produce an uptime of 116 days and restarted voluntarily. Windows has NEVER managed anything close to that.
 
Thanks.

You might not like it once I start moaning and groaning.

Then again, if I praise it too much I'll be called a fanboy by the flip side again.

But my intention was to offer something a little different from a genuinely platform agnostic view.
You opened very objectively.

You actually got me wondering about trying out a win phone phone now. Tried the others but never given win phone a try. Think I should. As you say, MS are starting to shine.
 
You see for me it's been the case of having the complete ecosystem experience or so long now that if I removed a single device from the mix it would break my life.

Now because of the "loss" of OSX everything is breaking so I'm embracing the change and going large.

Android doesn't offer me that ecosystem solution, not entirely and it's the main reason I've mostly ignored it.

People who haven't experienced that ecosystem setup before don't know what it's all about so they don't miss it and often ask me what the fuss is about.
 
Windows will never match the snappiness and performance of osx running on a mac. For someone that bangs out code all day long, even a slight delay between when i click something and the result grinds my balls

Stop using crappy hardware then?
My windows laptop with comparable hardware to a macbook is as fast if not faster.
 
You opened very objectively.

You actually got me wondering about trying out a win phone phone now. Tried the others but never given win phone a try. Think I should. As you say, MS are starting to shine.

Yeah watch out for WP, its really good.
The only thing its missing are some of the niche apps related to certain things like some GPS watches etc.
The more commonly used stuff is there and its very quick to use and has battery life like no other mobile platform.
 
Windows 10 has me excited too. Very unlikely I'll move back but I like some of the decisions they've made (like not having fifty thousand different versions), it will also hopefully make my life better being an IT guy and having to work with Windows machines on a daily basis.
 
Install Windows on your MacBook Pro. That's what I do :p Que the outrage.

All the major applications are Retina ready, and Windows scales up nicely. Battery is not as good as OS X thou.
 
Yeah watch out for WP, its really good.
The only thing its missing are some of the niche apps related to certain things like some GPS watches etc.
The more commonly used stuff is there and its very quick to use and has battery life like no other mobile platform.
You seem to have a bit of info on apps on WP.

/Warning - quick derail.

Do you get apps for managing Sabnzbd, Sickbeard, etc..?
How seamless is a Google account integration on WP?

I don't expect you to know, but would like to know if you do.

Don't think I would go exclusive WP now. Rather get one as a second phone while I figure stuff out. Love my G3 too much. But OP has me thinking.
 
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