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Orihalcon said:
You don't need an insulin spike for effective creatine delivery. It also does not need to be cycled, front loaded etc.

Just google creatine myths and truths and go read the studies done on this supplement.

Most pre workouts will contain some form of carbohydrate, but not anywhere near the quantity required for an adequate spike.

Tests do show that marginal...and I stress this word...MARGINAL imorovement in creatine absorption does occur when taken with simple carbs in excess of 100g. So basically down your creatine with 100g of pure sugar for slightly better uptake? No thanks.

Drink that mono with water, add it to your breakfast or pwo. It's all good. Creatine saturates the cells. It does not matter when you take it as long as you take it daily so the levels are kept stable.
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Thank you.

Does pre-workout contain enough creatine or should one be taking a seperate dose daily for good levels in your muscles?
 
Flip-Flop said:
Thank you.

Does pre-workout contain enough creatine or should one be taking a seperate dose daily for good levels in your muscles?
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From everything I've read you don't need anything more than 5-10g a day. Most pre workouts contain 5g.

If yours contain less it could be beneficial to trial taking an extra teaspoon a day and see how it helps.
 
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Orihalcon said:
From everything I've read you don't need anything more than 5-10g a day. Most pre workouts contain 5g.

If yours contain less it could be beneficial to trail taking an extra teaspoon a day and see how it helps.
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Thanks a lot. Appreciate the feedback. Will check tonight how much my pre-workout contains.
 
Orihalcon said:
From everything I've read you don't need anything more than 5-10g a day. Most pre workouts contain 5g.

If yours contain less it could be beneficial to trial taking an extra teaspoon a day and see how it helps.
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I'm not gonna order PWO again, instead gonna trail the caffeine tablets, coz I already take the mono - have you got any experience with caffeine tablets?

The guys on /fit/ seem to recommend them.
 
Piesank said:
I'm not gonna order PWO again, instead gonna trail the caffeine tablets, coz I already take the mono - have you got any experience with caffeine tablets?

The guys on /fit/ seem to recommend them.
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I don't unfortunately. Never needed a pre-workout other than a cup,of coffee. Enough caffeine in there for me.

But as long as you dose carefully it should be really effective as caffeine is the main ingredient in most/all pre-workouts since DMAA got blacklisted as an ingredient.
 
Orihalcon said:
I don't unfortunately. Never needed a pre-workout other than a cup,of coffee. Enough caffeine in there for me.

But as long as you dose carefully it should be really effective as caffeine is the main ingredient in most/all pre-workouts since DMAA got blacklisted as an ingredient.
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Ja I used to just drink coffee, but it takes a while for it to make and it has caused me to be late before, so the PWO is more convenient. As I already get up at 04:20 I don't want to wake up 10 minutes earlier to make coffee :D
 
Thanks, but I battle with stability on lunges.
Should I aim for higher rep + lower weight, or rather try for higher weights + low rep?
What is a good starting weight?

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Lunges. Works the whole leg and core when using a barbell for extra weight.
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I also tend to lose balance with the lunges but it has gotten better the more I do them.

I currently hold 15kg dumbbells in each hand while doing my lunges. I know it is probably not enough but I already struggle to finish my sets with that weight. Will go higher later.
 
CodeMaster said:
Thanks, but I battle with stability on lunges.
Should I aim for higher rep + lower weight, or rather try for higher weights + low rep?
What is a good starting weight?
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APoc184 said:
I also tend to lose balance with the lunges but it has gotten better the more I do them.

I currently hold 15kg dumbbells in each hand while doing my lunges. I know it is probably not enough but I already struggle to finish my sets with that weight. Will go higher later.
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Lunges are a killer. You'll not find many people lunging more than 40kg. It almost hits the whole body.

I'd go low weight first and do quantity so that your body becomes use to the movement as well as the stride length.

Once you have that down pat. Up the weight.
 
APoc184 said:
I also tend to lose balance with the lunges but it has gotten better the more I do them.

I currently hold 15kg dumbbells in each hand while doing my lunges. I know it is probably not enough but I already struggle to finish my sets with that weight. Will go higher later.
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I struggle to finish my sets without any weights! /hangs head in shame

First time I did lunges a few weeks ago I went in, felt a sharp pain in the side muscle of my leg and went down like a bag of potatoes. Doing squats and lunges getting easier now, but I still struggle. I seem to have the balance of a baby.
 
Flip-Flop said:
I struggle to finish my sets without any weights! /hangs head in shame

First time I did lunges a few weeks ago I went in, felt a sharp pain in the side muscle of my leg and went down like a bag of potatoes. Doing squats and lunges getting easier now, but I still struggle. I seem to have the balance of a baby.
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Just a new movement the body has to create neuro muscular motor pathways for (if you wanna get all sciency).

But CAREFUL on the ligaments and hipflexors...they get hella tights from linges and squats...depending on your body. I have had endless tightness problems...daily foam rolling though has solved that problem for me at least.
 
Okay. So 15kg x 2 is not too bad after all. I barely finish my 3 x sets of 12 with that weight. I always do them last because when I'm done with it I can barely walk back into the house let alone do more exercises.
My legs are quite skinny so I tend to push myself a bit harder on the leg days hoping to see drastic changes soon.


Would like to ask another possible stupid question.

With all the exercises I do, I get that burning muscle feeling. But when it comes to bench press and flyes I do not get that sensation at all. I still go to the point of failure but never feel the muscles burning. Am I doing it wrong? Wider grip perhaps? Currently benching 60k and can't go higher yet as I won't be able to finish my sets.
 
On my old routine I was doing lunge walks, 10/leg (20 steps) for 3 sets, 2x5kg dumbells.
I'll maybe up that to 2x10kg dumbells and do 3 sets of 12.
By the 3rd set my legs are also like jelly :)
 
Hahaha. Sweet lord DAT bulk...brother took that **** serious as a heart attack.

Wonder if he'll have the discipline to cut hard.
 
Have decided to start taking extra Evox creatine HCL. Read it increases Dihydrotestosterone by 50%. Can only be a good thing, unless I have the gene for male pattern baldness. :eek:
 
Any one know what changed in Evox's 3DT2 from 3DT?

Found pics

3DT
3DT-Table.jpg

3DT2
Small tables 3dt2.jpg

Basically, did they remove or add the good stuff?
 
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