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stevovo said:
I'm about 80kg and 183cm, I'm trying to gain muscle mass so I'm eating a lot of proteins and weightlifting but I still keep losing weight slowly or just not lose/gain at all. Should I just eat more? I'm already nearly stuffing myself with food and I would drink at least 1 protein shake a day
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Post up a detailed breakdown of your daily meals along with protein, fat and carbohydrate counts. Then we will have more to work with and offer advice.
 
prOd said:
I'm down from 82.5 -> 80.7 Since the 2nd of Jan. Cutting isn't that bad ;D
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Agreed.

I'm gaining definition and keeping every bit of my strength. Heck, I am even improving on some lifts. Just have to get the diet dialed in tight.
 
InternetSwag said:
Yeah, but you have so much muscle that your body is basically a furnace burning itself up to make more room for muscle.
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lol ;D that's flattering but not true :)

I worked out a menu for meals I need to eat on workout and rest days. I also calculated my needed macros for each day and do my best to stick by it (pretty hard when you get drunk every weekend with friends)

Still, it's the only way that works, for me at least.
 
Question for you guys on lunges. Now I know this is a great exercise working from your feet through the legs and into the core and taxes you big time...but have you guys experienced any knee pain with it?

Being an exercise that I loathed I forced myself to work on it and came to love and improve greatly in it. However when lunging with 80kg+ I do feel tension on my knees. Nothing hectic or searing...just a bit of discomfort. My form I think is spot on.

Is this normal? Anything to look out for? Signs of damage?
 
Orihalcon said:
Question for you guys on lunges. Now I know this is a great exercise working from your feet through the legs and into the core and taxes you big time...but have you guys experienced any knee pain with it?

Being an exercise that I loathed I forced myself to work on it and came to love and improve greatly in it. However when lunging with 80kg+ I do feel tension on my knees. Nothing hectic or searing...just a bit of discomfort. My form I think is spot on.

Is this normal? Anything to look out for? Signs of damage?
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Lunges put a big strain on the knees, and 80kg is a very big weight to lunge. Never seen huge guys lunge that much, the risk of an injury is too big. Maybe reduce the weight a bit, start leg day with extensions, they ought to pump enough blood into your knees. Also get knee wraps.
 
HDS said:
Lunges put a big strain on the knees, and 80kg is a very big weight to lunge. Never seen huge guys lunge that much, the risk of an injury is too big. Maybe reduce the weight a bit, start leg day with extensions, they ought to pump enough blood into your knees. Also get knee wraps.
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You are right...I have also never seen the bb's lunge big weight. Wonder if this is solely due to risk of injury that it is avoided?

I start leg day with hamstrings first, then progress to quad with leg extensions up first as you advised.

Was never my intension to start lunging so much...was just a natural progression to keep adding load. I alternate between using am Olympic barbell or dumbbells (when I want to dual train grip strength).

Will look into wraps thank you! And if the injury risk is too great...will then rather scale down weight to say 60 and just do more volume I guess.
 
HDS said:
Lunges put a big strain on the knees, and 80kg is a very big weight to lunge. Never seen huge guys lunge that much, the risk of an injury is too big. Maybe reduce the weight a bit, start leg day with extensions, they ought to pump enough blood into your knees. Also get knee wraps.
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And extensions are good for your knees? :wtf:
 
xrapidx said:
And extensions are good for your knees? :wtf:
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Are squats good for your knees? Leg press? By that logic one can just as well stay at home on leg day...extensions is a perfect warm up exercise to get the blood pumping into your legs and especially your knees.

Orihalcon said:
You are right...I have also never seen the bb's lunge big weight. Wonder if this is solely due to risk of injury that it is avoided?

I start leg day with hamstrings first, then progress to quad with leg extensions up first as you advised.

Was never my intension to start lunging so much...was just a natural progression to keep adding load. I alternate between using am Olympic barbell or dumbbells (when I want to dual train grip strength).

Will look into wraps thank you! And if the injury risk is too great...will then rather scale down weight to say 60 and just do more volume I guess.
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Lunges isn't as well of a mass building exercise as squats or leg press are. It leans more to the fitness/sculpting side, but not to say you won't see gains by doing it.

But preserve your knees at all cost man. I can't tell you how many guys I've seen who complained about not being able to squat or even do legs due to hurting their knees.
 
xrapidx said:
And extensions are good for your knees? :wtf:
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Nothing wrong with leg extension. When done right. Biggest mistake people make when going heavy on them is rolling their feet outward. Lo and behold all the weight you lifting is being lifted off centre on the knee joint. That is asking for pain and trouble. It also happens easily when you get tired.

However if you concentrate on keeping your legs and feet straight, there is no risk. It will in fact help strengthen the ligaments. Again people go too heavy too damn fast.

I can go heavy on extensions with no pain.

And yes, leg press and ATG squats are staples on leg day :)

Slow and controlled.
 
HDS said:
Lunges isn't as well of a mass building exercise as squats or leg press are. It leans more to the fitness/sculpting side, but not to say you won't see gains by doing it.
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Duly noted. No chance of mass being built now anyway eating at deficit.
 
Orihalcon said:
Nothing wrong with leg extension. When done right. Biggest mistake people make when going heavy on them is rolling their feet outward. Lo and behold all the weight you lifting is being lifted off centre on the knee joint. That is asking for pain and trouble. It also happens easily when you get tired.

However if you concentrate on keeping your legs and feet straight, there is no risk. It will in fact help strengthen the ligaments. Again people go too heavy too damn fast.

I can go heavy on extensions with no pain.

And yes, leg press and ATG squats are staples on leg day :)

Slow and controlled.
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Sports doctor, and various biokinetisists I've dealt with say otherwise. And they're fine with squats.
 
xrapidx said:
Sports doctor, and various biokinetisists I've dealt with say otherwise. And they're fine with squats.
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Too each his own. Just as some say upright rows will destroy your shoulders others say otherwise and go their lives doing it with no pain or problems.

Again I say the key is controlled and proper form.
 
Orihalcon said:
Too each his own. Just as some say upright rows will destroy your shoulders others say otherwise and go their lives doing it with no pain or problems.

Again I say the key is controlled and proper form.
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True, i think what hurts for some doesn't for others unless theres something hidden, I was told pull-ups where damaging, I don't see how they are more damaging than bench press or overhead lifts on my shoulders.
I find pull-ups very easy and they feel normal whereas bench and over head pressing can hurt my shoulder and not the muscle but the joints.
 
What supplements can one reccomend to help get through a plateau? The only supplements i have used were whey protein, a mass gainer and creatine and have never taken anything else.

I am looking for something to give my system a bit of shock or change to help pull through the plateau. I am caffiene sensitive, so dont want anything like that.

Any thoughts on testosterone boosters?
 
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