The Bodybuilders Thread!

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Hemps said:
Never tried any pre-workout before but i think i need something to give me some extra oomph.

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Tinuva said:
Heh, they always used to have 2 squat racks, then downgraded to 1 squat rack. Many complaints followed. They went back to 2 squat racks.

But yeah I am very disappointed with most VAs nowadays. Really trying to budged now to start my own stuff at home. Mostly due to me hate waiting for equipment and wanting to things on my own time.
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I overheard two guys talking about how the type of equipment there is also dependent on members writing in to request certain equipment. If you don't ask they don't provide or something.
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
If you're on LCHF, STOP COUNTING CALORIES! Just eat, your body will know how much it needs... That's the whole point of the diet, you lose weight without cravings and conversely you'll naturally eat more if you're building muscle.

Nuts are fine for LCHF...
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I respectfully disagree. That approach might be fine for the average Joe just wanting to lose weight. However this is the bodybuilding thread - seek the fastest, best and most efficient approach for optimal results no matter the goal imho.

In which case proper calorie count and control is key. Not just in knowing how much you eat, but also for future reference as you will gain knowledge about your body and how it handles different quantities of food and macro split. This will assist in gains and cutting.

Again, only opinion. Some people just go with gut feel and make pretty good progress...however I've yet to meet someone that does not count calories and look seriously ripped and lean.
 
Orihalcon said:
I respectfully disagree. That approach might be fine for the average Joe just wanting to lose weight. However this is the bodybuilding thread - seek the fastest, best and most efficient approach for optimal results no matter the goal imho.

In which case proper calorie count and control is key. Not just in knowing how much you eat, but also for future reference as you will gain knowledge about your body and how it handles different quantities of food and macro split. This will assist in gains and cutting.

Again, only opinion. Some people just go with gut feel and make pretty good progress...however I've yet to meet someone that does not count calories and look seriously ripped and lean.
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I agree 100% but I haven't seen much of rhodad so I just presumed he was closer to the average joe type than the gym bunny and considering he framed the question such that it was a dietary related I answered in the same vein.

If you're going properly hardcore with building then you have to obviously go hardcore with the diet, however if you're doing it to be healthy, feel better and look better, then while on LCHF there is no need to count calories. Stick to it and your body will tell you when you need food.

PS: peanuts are OK for LCHF but any other nut is better especially almonds, walnuts, brazils...
 
StrontiumDog said:
I overheard two guys talking about how the type of equipment there is also dependent on members writing in to request certain equipment. If you don't ask they don't provide or something.
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I got the second squat rack at VA Canal Walk doing just that - I actually asked how I'm supposed to squat when I compete for a rack used by curlers.
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
I agree 100% but I haven't seen much of rhodad so I just presumed he was closer to the average joe type than the gym bunny and considering he framed the question such that it was a dietary related I answered in the same vein.

If you're going properly hardcore with building then you have to obviously go hardcore with the diet, however if you're doing it to be healthy, feel better and look better, then while on LCHF there is no need to count calories. Stick to it and your body will tell you when you need food.

PS: peanuts are OK for LCHF but any other nut is better especially almonds, walnuts, brazils...
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I agree with you :)

And your reasoning for the answer :)

Carry on. As you were hehe.
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
I agree 100% but I haven't seen much of rhodad so I just presumed he was closer to the average joe type than the gym bunny and considering he framed the question such that it was a dietary related I answered in the same vein.

If you're going properly hardcore with building then you have to obviously go hardcore with the diet, however if you're doing it to be healthy, feel better and look better, then while on LCHF there is no need to count calories. Stick to it and your body will tell you when you need food.

PS: peanuts are OK for LCHF but any other nut is better especially almonds, walnuts, brazils...
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Thanks
My apologies, I should have stated this upfront - Especially considering that this is a body building thread.
I am an average Joe just trying to drop a few lbs. I've been on the low carb thing for a few weeks and have started to see results. I just wanted to know about the nuts.

Another thing, when doing LCHF, is the HF mandatory for weight loss?
All I've basically done is cut out starch from my meals (potato, bread, chips etc) and replaced it with salads/veg and also cut out beer. I've been having a bit more meat that usual, obviously.
Am I approaching this correctly?

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rhodad said:
Thanks
My apologies, I should have stated this upfront - Especially considering that this is a body building thread.
I am an average Joe just trying to drop a few lbs. I've been on the low carb thing for a few weeks and have started to see results. I just wanted to know about the nuts.

Another thing, when doing LCHF, is the HF mandatory for weight loss?
All I've basically done is cut out starch from my meals (potato, bread, chips etc) and replaced it with salads/veg and also cut out beer. I've been having a bit more meat that usual, obviously.
Am I approaching this correctly?

thanks
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Haha you're doing it very wrong I'm afraid... You MUST MUST MUST eat more fats! This means frying things in butter(chuck all the vegetable oil in the bin), biiiig splashes of olive oil on those salads, buying the fattiest cuts of meat you can find.

Cut out ALL starches(rice, bread, wraps, pancakes, flour, potatoes etc etc), ALL sugar in anything(that includes sauces, marinades, yoghurts, fruit juices), check all the labels and anything that has a higher carb content than 10g per 100g goes in the bin. Anything low fat gets chucked as well, use full cream everything. Cut down on fruit too, a tiny portion contains massive amounts of sugars.

The only things you can eat as much as you like contain less than 5g/100g of carbs, 5-10g/100g you need to watch portion sizes, anything above that is out completely.
 
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xrapidx said:
I got the second squat rack at VA Canal Walk doing just that - I actually asked how I'm supposed to squat when I compete for a rack used by curlers.
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On that note, is it OK for me to do overhead / military press in the squat rack, as per stronglifts 5x5? I feel a bit swak pushing only 30kg (20kg if my shoulders are fatigued from benching). If someone needs to squat I will gladly give up the rack and move to dumbbells rather :p
 
MOAR questions!!

During the week I probably hit 100-120g protein for the day (weekends I eat way more since we'll almost always braai), and I weigh around 75kg now. What should I be looking to have? In my reading I've seen 2g per kg mass recommended, but that seems like a lot?
Calorie intake is another mystery to me - taking in around 2000 a day. Feel a little tired after working out, but the rest of the time I'm fine. Minimal carbs due to being on LCHF, on around 50g for the day mostly from low gi bread (which I'm hoping to cut out next week again). So, suggestions, advice, etc :confused:
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
If you're on LCHF, STOP COUNTING CALORIES! Just eat, your body will know how much it needs... That's the whole point of the diet, you lose weight without cravings and conversely you'll naturally eat more if you're building muscle.

Nuts are fine for LCHF...
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To be honest, I also have to disagree, to an extent.

It can be a shock to some how quickly you can hit those 20g of carbs without even trying. So counting calories in the beginning is a big help in letting you know what's fine and what isn't.

Secondly, newbies to LCHF aren't used to getting in so much fat, and I gotta be honest, sometimes it's hard for me to hit my fat macros per day. Again, counting those calories using a tracker comes in handy.
 
Archer said:
MOAR questions!!

During the week I probably hit 100-120g protein for the day (weekends I eat way more since we'll almost always braai), and I weigh around 75kg now. What should I be looking to have? In my reading I've seen 2g per kg mass recommended, but that seems like a lot?
Calorie intake is another mystery to me - taking in around 2000 a day. Feel a little tired after working out, but the rest of the time I'm fine. Minimal carbs due to being on LCHF, on around 50g for the day mostly from low gi bread (which I'm hoping to cut out next week again). So, suggestions, advice, etc :confused:
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The whole 1g/lb of protein has been researched and put to bed. In numerous studies - as can be found on eatingacademy run by Dr. Attia (who is himself a serious athlete) - he remarks that there is no measurable increase in muscle synthesis going above the 1.8g per KG of protein. In fact those studies actually go on to state that a level - depending on training and athletic ability - of .8 - 1.8 is fine.

For me personally I eat way above those thresholds - as I think most serious gym goers do. Does this mean the extra protein is wasted? Perhaps in terms of usage for muscle building yes, however those extra calories fill the cap that would otherwise be taken by carbs, promote a possitive nitrogen balance, provide extra micro nutrients in the form of BCAA's and amino acids. I take in about 190g-220g of protein a day easy. High protein intake is FINE for any person so as not PRE-EXISTING renal deficiency exists. If it does...high protein not good.
 
Randhir said:
To be honest, I also have to disagree, to an extent.

It can be a shock to some how quickly you can hit those 20g of carbs without even trying. So counting calories in the beginning is a big help in letting you know what's fine and what isn't.

Secondly, newbies to LCHF aren't used to getting in so much fat, and I gotta be honest, sometimes it's hard for me to hit my fat macros per day. Again, counting those calories using a tracker comes in handy.
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Count carbs and fat not calories... Calories are not created equal, I would go so far as telling people to actively ignore calorie counts. If you're counting your conscious brain is regulating your intake, the whole point of this diet is to let your unconscious mind take over again... Once you hit that point you're set for life and will never crave anything again.
 
ScottulusMaximus said:
Count carbs and fat not calories... Calories are not created equal, I would go so far as telling people to actively ignore calorie counts. If you're counting your conscious brain is regulating your intake, the whole point of this diet is to let your unconscious mind take over again... Once you hit that point you're set for life and will never crave anything again.
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Yeah, once you hit that point, but that's what I mean, you have to hit that point first.

And my disagreement was you saying 'just eat'. I know what you mean, but lots of things have hidden carbs which is why it can be important to initially track your macros.
 
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