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Hey all! I got quite a suprise when I saw this thread on MyBB (no offense meant)!

I stumbled upon a 12 week training programme called Eternal beach body on mensfitness.com. Its pretty comprehensive and I am starting week 8 this week. It has really done wonders for gaining strength but I have the unfortunate physiology of NOT being able to put on weight, EVER! I think my bodyfat is close to 0% and I lose weight 10X faster than I put on. I'm 1.83m, last week monday I weighed 66.1kg on Saturday I weighed 65kg! Wtf!?!

At the moment I look pretty ripped but its super skinny ripped (think muscle magazine ripped minus 40kg...) and I'm really strong for my weight but I just can't get anywhere with gaining weight!

I don't follow a diet but I try to eat as much as I can of a low gi diet throughout they day. That includes at cereal for breakfast, at least 3 low gi wholeweat bread cheese tomato samies for lunch and at least 250g protein at my mainmeal, lots of veg, jasmin rice or pasta (breakfast bowl full at least) plus a serving of usn muscle fuel sts on training days. I would kill to eat inbetween snacks and take my shake every day of the week but being on a student budget EVERYTHING has to stretch further!!

I know some people would kill to have my metabolism but trust me its a pain in the ass when you're trying to pick up muscle mass! Does anyone here have any ideas for CHEAP foods that can help increase my kilojoule intake per day?

The other thing that is bothering me lately is having a racy heart near the end of my gym session and feeling faint! I'm going to the doctor on Tuesday to have it checked out, I do know I have low blood pressure but this is getting worse and its really worrying me! Anyone experience anything similar?
 
Edduck said:
Hey all! I got quite a suprise when I saw this thread on MyBB (no offense meant)!

I stumbled upon a 12 week training programme called Eternal beach body on mensfitness.com. Its pretty comprehensive and I am starting week 8 this week. It has really done wonders for gaining strength but I have the unfortunate physiology of NOT being able to put on weight, EVER! I think my bodyfat is close to 0% and I lose weight 10X faster than I put on. I'm 1.83m, last week monday I weighed 66.1kg on Saturday I weighed 65kg! Wtf!?!

At the moment I look pretty ripped but its super skinny ripped (think muscle magazine ripped minus 40kg...) and I'm really strong for my weight but I just can't get anywhere with gaining weight!

I don't follow a diet but I try to eat as much as I can of a low gi diet throughout they day. That includes at cereal for breakfast, at least 3 low gi wholeweat bread cheese tomato samies for lunch and at least 250g protein at my mainmeal, lots of veg, jasmin rice or pasta (breakfast bowl full at least) plus a serving of usn muscle fuel sts on training days. I would kill to eat inbetween snacks and take my shake every day of the week but being on a student budget EVERYTHING has to stretch further!!

I know some people would kill to have my metabolism but trust me its a pain in the ass when you're trying to pick up muscle mass! Does anyone here have any ideas for CHEAP foods that can help increase my kilojoule intake per day?

The other thing that is bothering me lately is having a racy heart near the end of my gym session and feeling faint! I'm going to the doctor on Tuesday to have it checked out, I do know I have low blood pressure but this is getting worse and its really worrying me! Anyone experience anything similar?
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Hi Edduck. There are three different body types and it is possible you fall into the "hard gainer" group also called ectomorphs. First thing anyone needs to pack on meat is to eat right. From the few items you mentioned I can see that you are not eating enough to build muscle.

It is hard to maintain the right diet on a budget unfortunately. My diet for me alone costs R2k a month (keep in mind I now weight 100Kg). That is excluding my fiance's diet and general groceries. If you are only taking protein shakes on training days, and you are not getting the right amount of calories on your off days, then you will be wasting whatever you progressed previously. You need a constant supply of about 500Kcal over your DCN to maintain to gain about 0.5Kg per week. If you do that right for 5 days, and then on day 6 miss a meal or two and fall 500Kcal short for the day, your body will use what it stored/build up to feed itself...

Another thing to keep in mind is that if you are indeed a hard gainer, then you will NEVER get the same results from a routine than other people that are not. There are routines specifically designed for ectomorphs. Google it.

As for cheap foods, you need certain amount of carbs and protein a day. I would suggest the following as the cheaper foods for the respective energy source:

Carbs: Rice (Brown Pref), Oats, Brown Pasta, Provitas, Bananas
Protein: Chicken Fillets, Tuna, Eggs
Good blend of Carbs, Fat and Protein: Peanut Butter

Mixed Vegetables every main meal
 
Hi Chris, thank you for the great advice. I googled ectomorphs and man is there alot of info out there! I just think my main probelm is I am not eating enough! I think my parents are just going to have to readjust my budget so I can include more supplements and more food!

I found quite a few good articles on what to eat and it seems all I should do is EAT LoL! I think my main problem is that I get full to quickly and then my appetite goes but I will just have to eat over a longer period then! I will post back here when I start seeing some results...
 
Edduck said:
Hi Chris, thank you for the great advice. I googled ectomorphs and man is there alot of info out there! I just think my main probelm is I am not eating enough! I think my parents are just going to have to readjust my budget so I can include more supplements and more food!

I found quite a few good articles on what to eat and it seems all I should do is EAT LoL! I think my main problem is that I get full to quickly and then my appetite goes but I will just have to eat over a longer period then! I will post back here when I start seeing some results...
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Yup, all you need to do is EAT :D just watch out for simple (or bad) carbs like sugars, white bread etc. I get by on one protein shake a day. Only because I do not like bringing two lunch boxes with to work every day.
 
Hi Edduck. It really is simple. You just don't eat enough. I also used to struggle to gain weight and said the same thing as you, "I ave the unfortunate physiology of NOT being able to put on weight, EVER!"

I used to weigh less than 60KGs. After learning how to EAT and train I got up to 83KG which for me is as big as I want to get. I am 1.72m tall so I'm now pretty big and muscular for my height. But I really had to force myself to eat when I wasnt hungry and stick to a eating routine. At exactly 8am, 11am, 1:30pm, 4pm, snack before gym, shake after, 8pm, whey before bed every day I would eat and my body got used to it quickly. Before I knew it my body would want food at those times without needing a reminder.

Eating is far more important than your training. 3 times a week in gym is enough to look pretty good but obviously more would be better.

You are feeling week and light headed after your work out because of the wrong nutrition. Your blood sugar level is too low which is messing with your blood pressure.
 
I agree with Sensorei, your body will get used to eating at certain times once you follow a set schedule and you WILL get hungry when it is time to eat again.
 
Get some Evox 5XL Muscle Meal. If you're a student its the best bang for buck mass gainer out there. I find its the best midrange priced product to pack on the pounds. Stay away from USN & Biogen mass gainers unless you like having a boep lol.

Obviously, eating 6/7 times every day is almost impossible for most people's lifestyles so a shake with a microwaved mccain veggies will do the trick twice a day if you're busy :-)
 
I'm currently following a 12 week(3 days a week) program. I do a full body workout on Mon, Wed & Fri. I'm thinking of changing it to every alternate day. So for the 1st week I'll be training on Mon, Wed, Fri & Sun, the following week Tue, Thu & Sat, etc.
Any pro's or con's to doing this?
 
Ok - I'm sick to death of cardio - yesterday is the second time I got up and walked out halfway through because I was so bored.

time to move back to weight training, else I'm going to get nowhere.

How do you guys feel about training late at night, say 20:30-21:30 - it seems the gym is relatively quiet at this time.
 
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I'm currently following a 12 week(3 days a week) program. I do a full body workout on Mon, Wed & Fri. I'm thinking of changing it to every alternate day. So for the 1st week I'll be training on Mon, Wed, Fri & Sun, the following week Tue, Thu & Sat, etc.
Any pro's or con's to doing this?
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If your body can handle it then you should try it out. One day rest in between should be fine but sometimes that extra day off over the weekend makes a big difference. Try it for 3 weeks and if you feel more tired during the last week then I would suggest you go back to 3 days a week. Otherwise you can carry on until you need a break.

xrapidx said:
Ok - I'm sick to death of cardio - yesterday is the second time I got up and walked out halfway through because I was so bored.

time to move back to weight training, else I'm going to get nowhere.

How do you guys feel about training late at night, say 20:30-21:30 - it seems the gym is relatively quiet at this time.
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I suppose it depends on when your CNS is most active and when not. Mine is at its peak around 16:00 so I try to never start gym after 18:00.
 
I thought I'd post another update on my progress. My cutting phase will start at the end of the month. I am currently at 100 / 101 Kg with 15% bf. I've increased my calories to 4500 daily so hope I pick up 2 more before the end of the month. My aim is to have 6 to 7% bf after the cutting cycles. This should be around mid December. Will post them pics at the end of the month after bulking is complete.

Size wise, I've only measured my guns which have grown 2.5 cm since June. They are at 45.5cm (flexed) currently... I've been hammering them hard to get them a bit bigger as it is my weaker point :o
 
Damn. That would be impressive if you lose about 9% bf in about 8 weeks. Keep us posted.
 
lol, this is so funny... I went on to the discovery health site to activate the HealthFood benefit. I also did the personal health review to get an additional 10% discount and now the report says I have a BMI of 30.1 classing me as obese :D
 
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