The Bodybuilders Thread!

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LabAnimal said:
Actually I agree about your "Friend" comment. But at the end of the day, I have paid for the stuff, and have had a dash of results from it. I do intend to finish what I have and then leave it and get ontop of it all before I dabble again!

It sucks going to gym alone doing everything by yourself with little or no help! Socalled "Friend" offers to help, but is hardly ever around or too self absorbed in his own importants and looks, - so Yea, I guess you understand my frustration! - But I suppose everybody starts somewhere!

Thanks for the advise!
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Where do you gym bud...?
 
You guys are the last people to be advising each other about how to use gear. Steroids have to be used the right way otherwise you lose all your results or you end up with really crap sides. Testosterone should be the base of ANY cycle. All steroids stop your own natural testosterone production and you need to take testosterone even if its a low dose because as a man your body needs it for more than just muscle and a month on other gear means zero testosterone in your system. Not healthy.

Milk thistle should be taken throughout a cycle and preferably started before the cycle begins. Milk thistle actually strengthens your liver cells so that they can take a bit more punishment which is why its best to start before.

Winstrol on paper seems like a great steroid but 50mg for 6 weeks is VERY harsh on your body. It dried out your joints and they usually start to hurt between 4-6 weeks and make you more prone to injury. 6 weeks on Winstrol DESTROYS your lipid profile - Always, and it takes months to get your cholesterol right. Yes, it does make you look really hard and good, but only really if your body fat % is already quite low. Winstrol does NOT burn fat but it makes you appear leaner by losing all excess water and hardening your muscles. As soon as you stop the water comes back.

Tren is great for cutting cycles but why someone would use it with high % bodyfat is beyond me because firstly the fatter you are the more prone you are to progestin/prolactin related gynecomastia which tren can cause. Tren gyno is the worst to sort out! Serms and AIs don't help. Secondly, tren and cardio exercise do not go well together. Clen/ECA/Ephadrine is far more effective as a fat burner. Tren is used in pre comp cutting because it does not aromatise and if you are LEAN it makes you look incredibly hard but only if you are lean.

If you take steroids you will look better but you will get side effects. Nobody gets around it.
 
Sensorei said:
You guys are the last people to be advising each other about how to use gear. Steroids have to be used the right way otherwise you lose all your results or you end up with really crap sides. Testosterone should be the base of ANY cycle. All steroids stop your own natural testosterone production and you need to take testosterone even if its a low dose because as a man your body needs it for more than just muscle and a month on other gear means zero testosterone in your system. Not healthy.

Milk thistle should be taken throughout a cycle and preferably started before the cycle begins. Milk thistle actually strengthens your liver cells so that they can take a bit more punishment which is why its best to start before.

Winstrol on paper seems like a great steroid but 50mg for 6 weeks is VERY harsh on your body. It dried out your joints and they usually start to hurt between 4-6 weeks and make you more prone to injury. 6 weeks on Winstrol DESTROYS your lipid profile - Always, and it takes months to get your cholesterol right. Yes, it does make you look really hard and good, but only really if your body fat % is already quite low. Winstrol does NOT burn fat but it makes you appear leaner by losing all excess water and hardening your muscles. As soon as you stop the water comes back.

Tren is great for cutting cycles but why someone would use it with high % bodyfat is beyond me because firstly the fatter you are the more prone you are to progestin/prolactin related gynecomastia which tren can cause. Tren gyno is the worst to sort out! Serms and AIs don't help. Secondly, tren and cardio exercise do not go well together. Clen/ECA/Ephadrine is far more effective as a fat burner. Tren is used in pre comp cutting because it does not aromatise and if you are LEAN it makes you look incredibly hard but only if you are lean.

If you take steroids you will look better but you will get side effects. Nobody gets around it.
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I hope that is not directed at me ;)
Otherwise good post :)
 
Zenbaas said:
I hope that is not directed at me ;)
Otherwise good post :)
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No sorry man it wasn't directed at you. You've given some good advice. I get very frustrated seeing guys wanting to use steroids without knowing what they're really getting into or listening to gym buddies who's buff friend told them what to take. With steroids the line between serious problems and safe is very fine. But hey, I'm not perfect. I've made my own share of bad decisions.
 
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So basically you are saying there is no decent steroids on the market? Well ones that do not have tons of side effects?

What about these human growth things i heard stallone got caught with them. Don't sound very good but sure sound interesting :D.
 
The safest steroid for your body that is very effective is testosterone because it is occurs naturally in your body and studies show that even after prolonged use your natural testosterone and sperm production will return to normal, although it can take a few months. Oral steroids are pretty much all toxic except for primobolan which is very weak and needs to be stacked or taken for ages. Anavar is really the only other oral steroid that is safe but it also costs a small fortune and needs to be taken for a long time.

Test is best, yes there are side effects but comparing its pros and cons to other roids it comes up tops. But yes, there are side effects that are dose dependant but you need to research what to do to prevent the ones that can be prevented. Equipoise (EQ) is a safer option than Testosterone - it is just as anabolic but only half as androgenic. It is weaker and has far fewer side effects but gives very good quality muscle without much bloat. But unfortunately it takes 5-6 weeks to just kick in properly and a long cycle without testosterone is not good because after a couple of weeks on any steroid your own natural testosterone production is STOPPED <-bad! Weak roids like primo and var don't affect this as much. I'd really advise you not to do any steroids though unless you know 100% you can be responsible and already are in good shape.
 
in an easy sentence. 80% = what you eat 10% = Cardiovascular training 10% weight training.
This fact can be found in the "Body for life" Book, by Bill Philips
 
Nokkie said:
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This fact can be found in the "Body for life" Book, by Bill Philips
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His program and food just about killed me.To much effort. I get better results with a test-tos-teron jab in the buttocks and some bouncy bouncy on that trampoline thingy. Then I lift stock pots and potato sacks. My arms are hams.
 
Nokkie said:
in an easy sentence. 80% = what you eat 10% = Cardiovascular training 10% weight training.
This fact can be found in the "Body for life" Book, by Bill Philips
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You mean the opinion :) I personally don't believe cardio is that important...
 
Yup there was some problem with yesterday or some kuk. As long as it is here today. I have the tracking number.

Yesterday they told me it was the at the post office, then the post office told it was not. Seriously annoying but i am going to phone em now now and it better be there dammit!!!!!!!! :D

I need my pink pills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reminds me of good ol days at electric :p, cept those pills made you feel much better haha.
 
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Got em :D.

Popped one now, nothing thus far :D. Work dammit!!!!!!

I will take another one at 4 today before i go jogging.
 
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