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Thanks tuniva, it does help a lot. The eating part seems tough. I'm the kinda guy that can only eat when hungry, but I'll start building up slow. Eg. Today so far I had 2 boiled eggs and soon after 2 fried eggs, 3 rashers bacon, large vienna an 2 slices white bread (at 8am and 9 respectively) is that a good start so far. Should I worry about the bacon and fried stuff, as I'm skinny already. Also I have a very fast metabolism, as soon as I eat a meal I gotta go to the toilet. Seems like everything passes straight through me. Thanks again hey.
 
If you have a fast metabolosim - the solution is easy, eat what ever you want, constantly... don't get spotted without food in your hand. :p
 
Tinuva said:
Heh. Keep going.

I am reading this one e-book, and it states, if you want to look ripped at x kg body-weight, you need to first bulk up to 20kg over that, then cut down to that weight. For me this will be insane, I used to weigh 54kg, I am now at 75kg, I want to be 80kg when I am in my ripped look (being 1.76m) so that means I need to bulk up to 100kg!! That is insane!!!
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@ 1.76m 100kg would be borderline obese I tell you, okay maybe not that bad, but still can't be healthy to bulk up to such a extreme http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...3x403/579025_514702401873380_1527255115_n.jpg
 
Quick question on carbs:

I have cut carbs BIG time, only have carb related foods in the morning my Oats and pre-workout bowl of yogurt in afternoon.

That's it - NO rice or anything else.
After the first few days I felt pap but now after 2 weeks I feel great actually, I actually feel my abs coming through and can see 4 pack through t-shirt on much to wife's enjoyment, it's that last little bit of fat at the bottom i'm struggling with and when shirtless it's looks silly :(

I have a month and a bit before December Beach time, I want to go full out and lose this last bit.
I'm just carrying on with FULL body workouts, current "weight" supps I'm taking are CLA capsules after every meal.
Seems to be working, I'd think to lose weight now I must cut back on eating?

What you guys recommend?
 
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Wikkels88 said:
@ 1.76m 100kg would be borderline obese I tell you, okay maybe not that bad, but still can't be healthy to bulk up to such a extreme http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...3x403/579025_514702401873380_1527255115_n.jpg
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Haha that is extreme, but then again that guy in the photo probably did 0 training while bulking, as well as bulking on any food, instead of just healthy food.

I don't look anything close to that photo, and for the first time in my life it actually looks like I have meat on my bones. Maybe some good transformation photos in a year from now will be amazing. I fully intend to have more muscle than fat while bulking, there will be some fat too but that can't be helped. As for being healthy, hell I can at least do multiple sets of multiple reps pull-ups, chins and dips, how many people bulking can say that? Hell how many people can say they can do that? And soon, one day I will be able to do muscle-ups too, while I bulk up.

Hemps said:
Quick question on carbs:

I have cut carbs BIG time, only have carb related foods in the morning my Oats and pre-workout bowl of yogurt in afternoon.

That's it - NO rice or anything else.
After the first few days I felt pap but now after 2 weeks I feel great actually, I actually feel my abs coming through and can see 4 pack through t-shirt on much to wife's enjoyment, it's that last little bit of fat at the bottom i'm struggling with and when shirtless it's looks silly :(

I have a month and a bit before December Beach time, I want to go full out and lose this last bit.
I'm just carrying on with FULL body workouts, current "weight" supps I'm taking are CLA capsules after every meal.
Seems to be working, I'd think to lose weight now I must cut back on eating?

What you guys recommend?
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You need at least a 10% calorie deficit every day below what energy you spend that day, so on training days you will eat more, but still need to be 10% below what you use, and on rest days you eat even less, still 10% below what you use that day. No need to change the training too much, but you should add in some cardio, but none of that treadmill/cycle stuff in the gym, rather do some HIIT exercises, no more than 20 minutes 3 days a week. Try to do it on your off-days, then its easier to keep your food intake calories below 10%. My un-educated tips :) I still have to get to cutting part, but for now all my focus is bulk.
 
ShaunSA said:
Under-statement of the year :cry:
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Haha, I do believe it is an art form to eat so much, its driving me crazy, but I have a goal in mind, and to get it, I need to at least once in my life bulk up to 90-100kg otherwise I will never get bigger and always look skinny, so that is my driving force right now.

Tamagotchi said:
Thanks tuniva, it does help a lot. The eating part seems tough. I'm the kinda guy that can only eat when hungry, but I'll start building up slow. Eg. Today so far I had 2 boiled eggs and soon after 2 fried eggs, 3 rashers bacon, large vienna an 2 slices white bread (at 8am and 9 respectively) is that a good start so far. Should I worry about the bacon and fried stuff, as I'm skinny already. Also I have a very fast metabolism, as soon as I eat a meal I gotta go to the toilet. Seems like everything passes straight through me. Thanks again hey.
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100% true, for us skinny guys, eating is not easy, but then again, nothing in this life come by doing nothing. You truly need to want to be bigger to force yourself to eat enough, to force your body to grow. Just make sure to keep going to the gym so that the gains go into muscle instead of fat.

As for your question, don't worry about the bacon, just don't go out of your way to eat all unhealthy food. If you eat 90% healthy food and 10% not so healthy, that is 100% fine while bulking. You can work on your strictness when you do the cut after the bulk, so for now focus on volume of eating. My diet is 90-95% clean, with a little bit unhealthy stuff on the side.

Wednesdays I eat pizza, its the one evening in the week I go out, and its half price at eastwoods. I also have 2 castle lite draughts on these wednesdays most of the time, the only alcohol I drink in a whole week. When I be cutting that will go out of the window. Oh, don;t skip on the carbs, when bulking you need a healthy size of carbs.
 
Hemps said:
Quick question on carbs:

I have cut carbs BIG time, only have carb related foods in the morning my Oats and pre-workout bowl of yogurt in afternoon.

That's it - NO rice or anything else.
After the first few days I felt pap but now after 2 weeks I feel great actually, I actually feel my abs coming through and can see 4 pack through t-shirt on much to wife's enjoyment, it's that last little bit of fat at the bottom i'm struggling with and when shirtless it's looks silly :(

I have a month and a bit before December Beach time, I want to go full out and lose this last bit.
I'm just carrying on with FULL body workouts, current "weight" supps I'm taking are CLA capsules after every meal.
Seems to be working, I'd think to lose weight now I must cut back on eating?

What you guys recommend?
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Why not try HIIT after the workout or on days you don't workout?
 
Why not try HIIT after the workout or on days you don't workout?
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I'll look into - think I'll also put in some boxing and UP my "sand" bag sprints that's always a killer and makes me want to puke.
 
Korn1 said:
Heard nothing bad about it.
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serious?

Wikkels88 said:
Most researched/cheapest supplement out there, perfectly safe just drink plenty of water
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yeah that I am not too worried about after reading.
But is it worth it in terms of gains?
the best type? - monohydrate?
take it in your shake or with grape juice etc?

hopefully looking for personal experience
 
I just put creatine in my shakes... drink a **** load of water while on it... I usually gain quite a few kg, this time round 5kg of water retention.
 
D3x! said:
serious?



yeah that I am not too worried about after reading.
But is it worth it in terms of gains?
the best type? - monohydrate?
take it in your shake or with grape juice etc?

hopefully looking for personal experience
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-I personally find it helps me maintain/gain strength when eating in a calories deficit.
-Monohydrate would be my choice
-There's lots of bro science around the whole "you MUST take it with grape juice", after hearing/reading a lot over time it shouldn't matter really, I just take mine mixed with my post workout shake.
-Don't expect creatine (or any supplement for that matter) to be the magic ingriedient you're looking for, most of your success is going to come down to diet and hard work in the gym, once you get those 2 in check, focus on supplementing right.
 
Tamagotchi said:
Are reasonable gains possible with only barbells, dumbellss and a bench for a beginner?
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As long as your diet is in check, and you aim for progession weekly I can't see any reason why it shouldn't be possible, how many plates(kg's) you got to stack on those barbell dumbells?
 
Tamagotchi said:
Are reasonable gains possible with only barbells, dumbellss and a bench for a beginner?
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I agree with Wikkels.

Make sure to increase weight, how this happens depends on how advanced you are, or if you are a beginner, beginners increase it much faster.

Most beginners only need a barbell with plate on a bench and squat rack/cage. Do all the big compound exercises:
- Squat
- Deadlift
- Bench Press
- Over Head Press
- Bent-over rows / pendlay rows

With those you will get a pretty good full body workout. You will still need to eat to get the gains. Then with the dumbbells you can do some assistant exercises after you done with the compound exercises.
 
Hemps said:
I'll look into - think I'll also put in some boxing and UP my "sand" bag sprints that's always a killer and makes me want to puke.
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Korn1 said:
Why not try HIIT after the workout or on days you don't workout?
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I agree, think I did mention it in my earlier post :)

HIIT > regular cardio to save time and use your time more effective :)
 
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